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A vitally important place to air your emotions, how you feel and what you think!

The F4J Have Your Say area is simply a place for everyone where you get the Freedom, Peace, Love and Respect to share what's going on for you.

There is no right or wrong about what you say or how you say it —
the main thing is you let it out!

So have your say, vent your spleen, say your peace, let your feelings, emotions and thoughts run free as opposed to bottling it up causing ill health in you and for others.

Chances are there is somebody relating to exactly what's happening or of concern to you. What you say may very well help others as well as yourself. Once we all realise we are not alone and we are all in this together in one form or another, as living men and women with fundamentally the same psychological and biological structure, a great sense of relief and peace can come from this knowing.

However, the only condition in this forum is we ask you not to identify family members by their true names. Not because of man made rules, fear or ignorance, but purely based on respect for yourself, your family and reasons of higher good, else you're free to let loose.

This Have Your Say section is an open forum and not censored as such giving you the freedom to let rip with whatever's on your mind.

So with all that out of the way.... Go straight to writing a comment now

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    By:johnsie from qld, oz on May 23, 2011 @ 5:54 am
    yeah good pple who help others don't get rewarded in this world of the greedy with the bugger you jack im alright attitude.
    By:Bill from Qld, Australia on May 23, 2011 @ 1:12 am
    It's been my experience the employment sector is pretty fucked up in Australia.

    People with qualifications cant get jobs. People with experience cant get jobs. If you're over 40 forget it, no one wants to know you. This is characterized by the nil job agencies helping people past 40. God knows how many hoops you have to jump through to get a job. All they ever want is you to do is bloody selection criteria. Maybe it's ok if you're a woman, you can get one of thousands of jobs in HR, who screen job apps.

    All they want you to do is go waste your time in training courses forever and spend loads of money on uni degrees which don't guarantee jobs anyway. Plus they farm heaps of jobs out overseas anyway. If you end up getting a job you pay a high tax rate, unless you have dependents and have be a political correct worker where you can't say one wrong word.

    Its no wonder people end up with mental illness problems, cos it doesn't matter what you do or make much sense. You just can't seem to win. It's all about who you know than what you know. God help our young and our over 40's.
    By:jeremy from WA, australia on May 22, 2011 @ 10:08 pm
    i agree with pete. ive been unemployed and out of paid work for so long now since i raised my kids and got a whirlwind of abuse fro my ex, lawyers and the system. I got my family, career, finances and head messed up so bad I may never lead a normal life again. When a father wants to care for his kids he gets the cue stuck up his ass!
    10. By:Phil Bradshaw from Victoria, Australia on May 20, 2011 @ 11:58 pm
    On the point of $1,5b Mrnatural I know of an instance where two govt officials went to a business offering $4000 for every employee they sign up for training and courses, whether they really needed or wanted to do the course. The rort is the course may cost $1000 with $3000 going straight to the employer for nothing really. Plus the unemployed who need jobs in the first place won't end up getting them or be better off.
    By:MrNatural from Vic, Australia on May 20, 2011 @ 4:24 am
    What annoys me is how many people in position and power, and the health/welfare sector speak with a forked tongue...

    $1.5 billion is up for grabs for the welfare and return to employment sector, including those on a disability pension, but hey, lets see where the money will really go!

    Into the hands of the mentally ill to get a better life? I DOUBT IT!!
    Into the hands of the long term unemployed to get suitable work ? I DOUBT IT!!
    Into all those highly paid professionals and business owners of health facilities and employment agencies? I RECKON SO!!

    This is not a negative view from a negative person, it's from a person who's seen, heard and knows too much from those who espouse good things with one hand and take with the other. Yes, people with forked tongues alright.

    Furthermore, I have experienced sweet bugger all help on welfare and with my disability in 10yrs.

    I have had barely any real help from public job agency JobServices Australia (JSA), and I doubt I ever will before I hear "Oh the money's run out!"

    Who are the shareholders in JSA?
    Won't they be happy with their return on investment(ROI) over the next few years.

    Q. What's the comparison between a public employment agency who helps a person on welfare get a job and a private one?
    A. Everything. In 10yrs with a public ones I have had sweet FA help! In 3 days with a private one I had an interview for a highly paid position with a huge organisation.

    So pple, you must get away from welfare as quick as you can, else that system will turn you mentally ill like they did to me, which has taken many years of recovery, plus I'm still not a 100% functioning person yet.

    Keeping you sick living on a pittance to grease the wheels of those who profit of the sick. A perpetual cycle that will destroy and suck the life right outa your bones!

    What a racket I tell you...
    By:pete from nsw, aust on May 11, 2011 @ 11:20 am
    geez its hard gettin back to work after many years broken down. the public employment agencies are stuffed & dont do a dam thing excerpt send u batty
    By:Brian P from Vic, Australia on May 5, 2011 @ 10:59 am
    Thanx MrNat 4 that. The light at the end of the tunnel seems so far away at times.
    By:MrNatural from Vic, Australia on May 5, 2011 @ 12:56 am
    Hi Brian, geez thought i was looking at a mirror reading what you had to say apart from a few exceptions. To make you feel better or worse im not sure which, ive been divorced for about 15years and it seems like an eternity. Im out of work too with some days i just wonder why i bother. Thoughts of suicide was bad in the early years but kept clear of it mainly thank god. Mostly cos of my kids, just couldn't do it to them plus id rather fight that useless system you were talking about which i did. However bad depression still lingers and things don't seem to get better until you look from the outside in and see things have changed alot. So keep going Brian, one step at a time and one day at a time.
    By:Brian P from Vic, Australia on May 5, 2011 @ 12:04 am
    Just saw this new feature up & thought id give it a whirl. If anyone out there has their life together can you please tell me how?

    Ive been out of work for over a decade since the family broke up and have rolled along helping people here and there, recovering and experiencing new things while I raised my kids under difficult circumstances.

    I have suffered considerable depression and anxiety from really not being in control of my life, bombarded by external legal mechanisms for many years. It caused my mental health to deteriorate on some levels yet allowed me to break free of a delusional world that many are trapped in. Yes I'm also trapped as I try and escape reaching for something better.

    Have been in the system trying to get work for a decade now and have been shuttled from one job agency to the next. Have come to realise ive been abused many times by the systems we have in place and now wonder why i ever expected better from such inadequate systems. I'm totally over politicians and people who talk bullshit and simply just give lip service. Quite frankly i think they want people to be unemployed and sick. After all, it will keep someone in a job.

    Anyway, no matter how qualified one is as Engineer in IT with a diverse range of skills, one can find it hard after many years of loss and abuse from lawyers and Family Court and legal systems. Yes it's all my fault I know and I'm taking full responsibility, however it's still hard to lift up and get a good life.

    Any help and guidance would be appreciated or do I need a labotomy?
    By:MrNatural from Vic, Australia on May 4, 2011 @ 11:54 pm
    Gr8 stuff guys. Hang in there Bob
    By:Bobby Brown from Victoria, Australia on May 4, 2011 @ 11:55 pm
    Im feelin a bit shitful atm
    By:Sue P from Qld, Australia on May 4, 2011 @ 11:55 pm
    Not really sure what to say save well done to the guys at F4J
    By:Admin from Vic, Australia on October 23, 2013 @ 9:11 pm
    Thanks for your patience, the team at F4J is glad to say this area is now up... Enjoy!
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