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F4Joz • View topic - Are Family Lawyers Qualified to Advise on Financial Matters?

Are Family Lawyers Qualified to Advise on Financial Matters?

Are Family Lawyers Qualified to Advise on Financial Matters?

Postby Batman on Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:05 pm

A QUESTION I POSE TO PEOPLE - ARE FAMILY LAWYERS QUALIFIED TO ADVISE YOU ON FINANCIAL AND PROPERTY SETTLEMENT MATTERS?

THE ANSWER IS, AS YOU WOULD EXPECT, A RESOUNDING NO

Under Family Law Rule 13.05, a party to a financial case, such as property settlement, maintenance, child support or financial enforcement must file a Financial Statement with the party’s Application or Response (see Rule 13.04 below).

Each party is required to file this Financial Statement and makes (swears / affirms) the following declaration as an Affidavit:

I swear*/affirm* that:
(a) I have read Rule 13.04 (which deals with full and frank disclosure) and I am aware that by law I have an obligation to make a full and frank disclosure of my financial circumstances to the Court and each other party. In particular, I have disclosed in this document or in an affidavit filed by me or on my behalf under Rule 13.05(2), all matters I am required to disclose under Rule 13.04.
(b) The information in the finacial statement and any attachments to it which are within my personal knowledge are true. Where I have given an estimate in this financial statement, it is based on my knowledge and is given in good faith. All other information given in this financial statement and any attachments is true to the best of my knowledge, information and belief.
(c) I have no income, property or financial resources other than as set out in this document or any affidavit filed by me under Rule 13.05(2).


Okay, so you do that, so what?

The (PART N - Orders for Maintenance, child support, financial enforcement) Number 60 - sworn by people are on the personal expenses, especially in the case of non-working women who are looking for a substantial maintenance claim. What we find is that the family lawyers, barristers and Judges, use these Financial Statements to drive a result that may allow inflated interim or spousal maintenance to be paid to one party, usually the wife, and then she can go about re-paying the legals fees owing to her family lawyer, usually over a six month period. .

It doesnt matter is you even show a deficiency in your Financial Statement as they will totally disregard it, as will the Judicary (which they make spousal maintenance orders without due regard to the financial reality or ones capacity to pay) often reducing capital or increasing debt, so the payments are made.

These Financial Statments of expenditure or "needs", which come into play under the section 75(2) matters, particularly relevenant if one party is currently and income earner and the other is say a stay at home mum (who probably can work, even taking a cleaning job), are usually a complete fiction.

Family Lawyers usually prepare these Statements and they advise on what numbers a party puts in here. These are Statements that can ruin you financially. Yet, ask your Family Lawyer whether he gives financial advice? He backs right away from this - all care, no responsibility. I say these people are gambling with the life savings or asset pools of ordinary mums and dads.



One may even consider making a complaint with Australian Securities and Investment Commission see: http://www.fido.gov.au/asic/pdflib.nsf/ ... July08.pdf

You can make a complaint to the Legal Services Commissioner or Board in relevant states, usually toothless tigers of the State Law Institutes, but they rarely punish their own members.

All in all, be wary. Perhaps consider getting an independent accountant or CPA to assist in preparing the Financial Statement and then have he or she swear an affidavit. One would expect the Court and the Family Lawyers to take notice and they would find it very hard to do otherwise. When the Family Lawyers prepare these Financial Statements, they are, as above, nothing more than fiction.



The Financial Statement is just a tool for the Family Lawyers to extract CASH and destroy you financially.
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Re: Are Family Lawyers Qualified to Advise on Financial Matters?

Postby Daveyone on Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:22 am

Family Law lawyers are also called fee earners and in a nutshell that is all they are about their fee!! They couldn't give a monkey about you your lifestyle or the relation ship that you have with your kids, just how much is in it for them period! :evil: I took great delight in telling my ex's lawyers last August that " :twisted: this is the last legal aid you F***ing parasites are going to plunder at my kids expence!" :roll:

All the best Batman,,

regards Daveyone :lol:
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Re: Are Family Lawyers Qualified to Advise on Financial Matters?

Postby Batman on Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:18 am

:roll: Thanks Daveyone - They could not really care about your family even after they have destroyed you and your ex financially. As long as they have extracted the maximum fees possible.

Ask your family lawyer or barrister the following 10 questions:

1. Is he or she married?
2. Do they have any kids and how old?
3. What private schools do they attend or will attend?
4. How involved are they with their kids and their extra curicular activities?
5. What do they enjoy most about being parent?
6. Where was their last family holiday and where will be their next or where they would like to go?
7. Which suburb or part of town do they live? (usually very telling)
8. Do they have a beach or holiday house, and if so, where?
9. What sort of car do they drive?
10. Do they believe in shared care and equal time with both parents?

The answers to the above will tell you a lot about the parasite you have working for you and how much they care about resolving your issue and getting the best outcome for your children.

Remember - Family Lawyers Destroy Families

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Re: Are Family Lawyers Qualified to Advise on Financial Matters?

Postby Daveyone on Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:46 pm

Today in the UK (April fools Day ) the press are now permitted to report on family law court matters this represents the only thing our justice minister Jack Straw has done on this subject which is one more thing then his predesessor Lord Falconer who did nothing :roll: and just for reference you will see I get everywherehttp://www.familylawweek.co.u ... ?i=ed34071! :lol:
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Re: Are Family Lawyers Qualified to Advise on Financial Matters?

Postby Daveyone on Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:47 pm

Today in the UK (April fools Day ) the press are now permitted to report on family law court matters this represents the only thing our justice minister Jack Straw has done on this subject which is one more thing then his predesessor Lord Falconer who did nothing :roll: and just for reference you will see I get everywherehttp://www.familylawweek.co.u ... ?i=ed34071! :lol:
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