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    170. townsville to canberra - By:shane from QLD, Australia on February 3, 2014 @ 9:48 am
    Your on steve,trying to organise a few things
    see u in canberra - By:shane from QLD, Australia on February 3, 2014 @ 9:48 am
    If the system in this country acknowlledges a gay couple as equal then why not a father it doesn't make sense but that is now the way of the world
    see u in canberra - By:shane from QLD, Australia on February 3, 2014 @ 9:48 am
    Thanks steve I don't know what to do anymore I have a lawyer but need a barrister. but no hope of that.legal aid won't help as i guess I'm a bloke.My case is good but I'm not given much hope because I'm the father.Anyway a 6month journey to parliament maybe some dads will show up there the day I arrive in support to show the politicians,judges,report writers etc what they are doing is wrong
    lets give the kiddies back to the paedop - By:shane from QLD, Australia on February 3, 2014 @ 9:48 am
    My trial date has been set for 2-12-2013 somewhere around that date my son and daughter will be handed back to paedophiles and child abusers who hav lost there kids in 2 countries and 2 states of oz,go figure but I have no hope in this system.In protest. I am riding to Canberra on. horseback from townsville so if u see a lonely cowboy on a horse aling the road in qld or nsw bip your horn in support.when I get there ill set up my swag out front in protest of injustices against all fathers in this shitty system
    Respect - By:Moses from QLD, Australia on November 1, 2013 @ 8:51 am
    We have all been idiots from time to time Steve. I'm sure you can agree with that. The problem isn't with the opposite sex, it's with ourselves. Just like when you hear men getting married 3 times and getting fleeced 3 times. You sort of wonder why they didn't learn the first time. One bitten, twice shy and all that. Simply, men haven't learnt to unite and stand together unless it's at the football or the pub. Men haven't evolved into a species that values their kids, not really, else there would be thousands marching up the city streets daily disrupting city traffic. No men aren't there yet, not by a long shot, unless it's a money issue like child support, then a few may come out of the wood work. I wonder how many people have registered up for the protest section? Part of a man's nature is the lack of endurance. They get tired. They can run a quick race all fired up and angry but it doesn't last for long. If women are to be given any credit compared with men, it's the fact they sacrifice themselves for their kids, endure and do whatever takes. Show me 10 men who do that and I'll show you 10,000 women. There is far more behind why women get the kids than most men care to admit or want to hear. And this is not a pro speech for women cos I've had the cue stuck up my ass by a useless system so don't get me started down that path else we'll be here for a very long time.
    Judges must be accountable to the public - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on October 31, 2013 @ 7:29 pm
    Publishing judgments without the supporting evidence will only tell us what a particular judge thinks. It does not allow anyone to make a balanced & informed decision. Judicial accountability is the real key to family law reform but you can't have accountability without transparency. Judges are public servants who are not accountable to anyone in government, so they must be accountable to the public in a law abiding democratic society' or it does not teach respect for them or the law.


    It is pointless for the courts to make orders if those orders are not then enforced. There is a legitimate public interest in ensuring that where an order is made by the court it is subsequently obeyed. Failure to enforce contact orders is the basis of some of the claims that the system is 'biased against fathers'. Furthermore, a failure of the State to enforce orders in this sphere has been held by the European Court of Human Rights to amount to a breach of the State's positive obligations under the European Convention on Human Rights.


    In an exclusive investigation , Dispatches puts judges in the dock and asks why no judge has ever been sacked for incompetence. In fact, there are no records kept of how often judges are getting it wrong, and with what consequences.

    Going back through the court transcripts of over 5,000 successful appeals and gathering the opinions of leading QCs, Dispatches reveals for the first time the alarming scale of judicial mistakes that can have devastating effects on those up before the court. This film is a special investigation by Mark Easton, Home Affairs Editor at Channel 4 News.

    The Answer - By:Moses from QLD, Australia on October 31, 2013 @ 7:25 pm
    "Love is the only sane and satisfactory answer to the problem of human existence" - Erich Fromm
    Pollies in fish-nets? - By:Peter Butler from NSW, Australia on October 25, 2013 @ 12:04 pm
    Same sex marriage being fought over by politicians?- too much information. A referendum on whether same sex marriage between consenting adults is recognised seems a better way to resolve the issue.
    Public Abuse - By:JamesR from Vic, Australia on October 25, 2013 @ 10:46 am
    Abuse is everywhere including organisations like Ostara (Disability Employment provider) and CRRS (Complaints Resolution and Referral Service) under the guise of an an Australian Government-funded disability employment and advocacy service.

    On this Shame & Name theme, I believe we need one not aimed at mums or dads, but all officials that supposedly serve the public. This would include the organisation plus key personnel like managers and executives etc.
    Forwards or Backwards - By:Rambo from NSW, Aust on October 24, 2013 @ 9:12 am
    As an old friend on mine used to say there is too much filth in the world, and he was right. ie. filth in man and by man
    160. Forwards or Backwards????? - By:Jeff Samuels from The Mallee Region Vic, Australia on October 24, 2013 @ 8:40 am
    Oz - Are we a land of Opportunity for all?

    Is Australia advancing or simply going backwards?

    Every industry, every sign and example shown by many seems to indicate we are going down hill.

    I really want to believe we are moving forward but just don't see it.
    I am a positive person. I can look at the sky, trees, animals, nature, the beauty of life like our children and breathe in our wonderful air, but everything man is touching is going to rack n ruin. Why?

    What's really going on, am I the only one feeling this phenomena? Does it feel like your spirit is breaking? I thought we were the lucky country from being smart.

    I would really like to hear what others have to say?
    Who are their policies designed to prote - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on October 22, 2013 @ 6:06 pm
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: david@ukfamilylawreform.co.uk
    To: mwilshaw@ofsted.gov.uk
    Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 5:43 PM
    Subject: Who are their policies designed to protect children from?

    Dear Sir Michael Wilshaw,

    If councils don't collect information on child abuse perpetrators how can they write policies which would effectively protect children & would you kindly ask those who don't collect this information who their policies are designed to protect children from?

    Yours Sincerely

    David Mortimer
    Am I the problem - By:Daniel L Senior from Sth Aust, Australia on October 21, 2013 @ 7:47 pm
    Always thought my last g/friend was just a narcisist but looking back and after reading more about it i think she was a sociopath.
    It was very hard to get out of the 7 yr relationship with her as you do feel sorry for them, you help them, you have your own stuff going on and sometimes you fall in love with them and want to remain loyal and make a real go of the relationship.
    But what it really means is you fall victim to their prey-ing mantis mentality and your in deep sh&&t.
    Funny thing tho my ex wife who i had kids with many years ago, well i had learnt from a forensic psyche that she was a narcisist and another woman i dated for a bit was also abit that way. Wow i said to moir what am i doing to attract these types. Havent figured it yet apart from the thrill i sometimes got with them.. at times mind you. And now im with a normal woman where i sometimes think is something missing and perhaps the problem is with me...
    UK Family Law Reform. - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on October 17, 2013 @ 1:18 am
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: david@ukfamilylawreform.co.uk
    To: Mark Lancaster2
    Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 3:16 PM
    Subject: Fatherlessness linked to crime levels and anti-social behaviour.

    Hi Mark,

    I've copied below a message I sent on the 10th of August in 2004.

    Best regards Dave


    I was pleased that Mr Howard said that boys benefit hugely from a fathers influence and with girls that it reduces pregnancies. Mr Howard has realised that divorce and fatherlessness are linked to crime levels and anti-social behaviour but there are many factors contributing to the rise in juvenile violence and crime, from the glorification of violence in the media to the failure of the "war on drugs but the main causes is the relationship between the welfare state and crime.

    NEW research shows that single mothers are more prevalent in countries where the state provides plenty of benefits. In Britain a quarter of all children are brought up by single parent mothers more than any other in the European Union and Increases in public support for single mothers is significantly associated with a higher prevalence of never-married and divorced mothers in 17 western countries.

    Best regards Dave


    August 09, 2004

    Howard blames fathers
    Police state or am I going mad?? - By:Petie from New South Wales, Austalia on October 16, 2013 @ 7:39 pm
    More police... what for? Do we want peace on Earth or police on Earth? After reading the below article one has simply gotta say WTF!!

    "Controversial changes to Victoria’s speed camera rules will allow police to hide behind trees and road signs and position themselves at the bottom of hills in the name of camera operator safety.

    A News Limited report reveals the new policy changes – which come into effect immediately – that claim to be designed to protect mobile speed camera operators from motorists by allowing them to hide behind bushes, poles and other fixed objects.

    While previously speed cameras were “under no circumstances” permitted to be covertly concealed and banned from use on downhill sections of road, the new wording allows their use in such instances if the “road safety objective” can’t be achieved in another position.

    Victoria Police defended the changes to the speed camera rules, contending that the amendments embraced some of the recommendations made by the state’s speed camera commissioner.

    “The amendments were made to specifically focus on the occupational health and safety of mobile speed camera operators, which is paramount in ensuring they can work in a safe environment,” a Victoria Police spokesperson said.
    Are you f...cking serious!! Let's look after the little camera operator revenue raisers at the xpense of families and children going under and breaking up due to financial stress. Seriously, put this much pressure on people and people are gona start crashin into these camera operators and probably much much worse! I'm surprised camera poles haven't been yet cut down with angle grinders??

    The mobile speed camera policy changes will be made publically accessible on the Victorian Government’s ‘Cameras Save Lives’ website.

    The website explains mobile cameras are used in unmarked vehicles at approximately 2000 locations across Victoria’s road network. A list of the locations is also available online.

    Locations for mobile cameras in Victoria must satisfy at least one of the following: there has been a serious or major collision at the location in the past three years; there have been complaints of excessive speed; it has been identified by Victoria Police to be a speed-related problem location; and, speed enforcement by non-camera devices is unsuitable."

    Shame on us - By:Moses from QLD, Australia on October 15, 2013 @ 4:50 pm
    My ex was a real bitch let me tell you and I didn't get to see my kids for a bit. But as much as I wanted to get back at her for what she was doing to her kids as much as me, stooping to low levels wasn't the answer as I had to live with myself at the end of the day. I have my own set of morals and standards. i for one agree with comments by Lostinspace and others not in favour of a destructive shame wall. You don't gain rights, privileges, respect or dignity at the expense of breaching or taking away anothers. Its what gets people in trouble in the first place. Just like in the world of money & credit, you don't satisfy a creditor by placing a debtor who can't pay in draconian hardship. Universal laws don't work that way and thank god else most of us wouldn't be here today.
    Name/Shame wall - By:Lostinspace from vic, australia on October 15, 2013 @ 3:36 pm
    All sounds lovely for some who want to blame others for their own inadequacies but sounds like a step backwards overall. We are trying to extinguish fascism, not inflame it.

    Leading - By:Sean O'Connor from NSW, Australia on October 15, 2013 @ 1:58 pm
    Father for Justice UK and Matt O'Connor, http://www.contactdeniers.com/ is sheer brilliant's, spotlighting secret court corruption destroying families and lives, Matt is leading by example is what it is about F4J OZ should follow their example.
    Admiralty law - By:MrNatural from Vic, Aust on October 15, 2013 @ 11:32 am
    Also research Admiralty Law as a basis to better understand the legal parallels with family courts, women and commerce, understanding why mothers get the lion's share.
    Narcs, Fascism & Communism - By:Rambo from NSW, Australia on October 15, 2013 @ 10:13 am
    Firstly, your preaching to the choir here. Life is difficult for us all in various ways but I'm sure many are doing our best, although I'm sure we can all do better. Still, our best may not be good enough but that's a matter for each of us.

    Narcissism is prevalent everywhere you look, and on the rise no doubt about it. The Legal and Family Law Industry is a hot spot, but anywhere there is money and power you will find it.

    This narcissistic and almost sociopath phenomena can largely be attributed to the ever increasing harshness of our environment, causing many to become selfish and look after No 1. using the ol' addage "Stuff you Jack I'm ok". It's often sickening and disheartening to see this attitude seemingly flourish in this day and age, it's a problem both simple and complex.

    The generic labels one can use are Fascism and Communism. The Communist Manifesto and history books indicate how an ever increasing police state underpins this cancerous creep into our civilization.

    Victorian news announced last night that State budget revenue from infringements was double their expectation. From $149M to over $300M and that over 3000 new police [not police as we'd like to know them, just revenue collectors] are on order.

    Australia is falling in line just like the UK and USA and must be met with resistance of love and higher consciousness. These historic and archaic ideals of F&C by a relative few may control our bodies as they own us in almost every way, but they don't own our hearts and souls. This is why we must all look within working hard on ourselves to become more loving and peaceful in a spiritual way. Violence only begets violence but love and non-compliance of evil trumps all. History has proven this.
    150. How much contact? - By:Rambo from NSW, Australia on October 14, 2013 @ 8:27 pm
    Hi David M great Q.

    Enough contact in whatever way so the child feels in their heart and soul that you truly love, care and are concerned about them. Kids have to feel they haven't been forgotten. It's about connection not so much quantity.
    Name/Shame page - By:Rambo from NSW, Australia on October 14, 2013 @ 7:12 pm
    Me from QLD probably needs to refrain from slagging F4Joz which in effect denigrates its members, users, the cause of unity and not helpful to anyone including yourself.

    Whilst everyone gets angry with the unfairness that happens to them with the whole Div/Sep clap trap process, blaming others and naming them really doesn't solve anything.

    This is not always apparent to us at first especially when we're feeling pain and helplessness against an anti-family system, but the cause of our issues aren't external, they're internal.

    It can be bloody hard, but we must all look inside for both the problems and solutions to all our woes. When we do this and in time, healing can take place.

    If ME wants to so desperately want a name & shame page up, why don't you do one yourself? Or if other members/users think its a good idea in a positive way please state your case.
    Child contact. - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on October 14, 2013 @ 6:06 pm
    How much contact does a none resident parent need to have with their children after separation or divorce to ensure their long term relationship is sustainable?
    One mans point of view - By:Bill Evans from New South Wales, Australia on October 14, 2013 @ 10:31 am
    After reading a few comments on this site I thought I would throw my point of view into the hat for consumption anyway people like. Btw I have had my fair share of ups and downs in life, including having the family court industry screw me and my family over big time, although a few years back now.

    THE BIG PICTURE (well some of it anyway)

    From 1975 - 2013 or thereabouts, many men as fathers have had to pay a stiff price upon Divorce or a Separation.

    Through loss of time with the kids or complete alienation, financial disparity if not financial ruin, loss of power and control and a hard whack to the male ego, identity and expectations, or simply a loss of their life psychologically, emotionally or physically.

    But didn't all these losses somehow resemble men and fathers going off to war, where men were somehow proud to go abroad and fight for their country? So what's the difference now for a man or father between the losses he may incur through going off to war and the losses he sustains through a Divorce or Separation?

    Whilst both scenarios are similar, what makes one more palatable than the other, or have men been jibbed on both accounts?

    Taking it a step further what are men meant to learn from these two paradigms?

    Are men being in alignment with their true nature in either case and if not, what really is a man's fundamental true nature?

    What is the authority on a man't true nature? Is there any one man on the planet we can say is an honourable role model for all men? What about throughout history or in the bible (the greatest story ever told)?

    Or are we slowly awakening to the fact we have been lost or misled, and in the throws of creating a new male species?

    Are men having to evolve in alignment with their environment, or should we be all working together to create something new and something better, discarding this old defunct model?

    So who's controlling our environmental landscape and for the good of who or what?

    Taking a spiritual perspective, and I don't mean religious, may just be the way forward for all us men and fathers. Maybe learning and remembering who we truly are is really the path for us all.

    In closing remember one thing, we came in with nothing and we will leave with nothing, so what would you like to contribute in the brief time you are here?

    Unfortunately as I wrote this, I came up with more questions than I did answers, I hope this is or service to someone and some other part of me.
    Action required... - By:Lostinspace from vic, australia on October 12, 2013 @ 12:44 pm
    Thx David & well done Andrea in her attempts to expose areas of child abuse. What a long statement & long battle (some 40 years).

    Child abuse is an industry that like the CSA, ATO, Legal, courts & authorities just to name a few, will do whatever it takes to protect itself from the onslaught of public pressure if the truth were to be revealed. It's a disgrace and the only real protection of these children is for mums & dads to be wise and just protectors of their children, also whatever it takes!!

    The fight is on lads, not against other countries in stupid wars that are pointless, but against those who attack our kids and families. United we stand - divided we fall!
    Action required in the best interests of - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on October 10, 2013 @ 10:32 pm
    Please read this & let me know what you think?

    By:Trevor Arthurson from Qld, Australia on October 10, 2013 @ 9:48 am
    Yeah, a single protest will get you onto national TV and radio. Things will continue to get worse because the emasculated Aussie male spends all his time and energy complaining about and abusing the MEN who engage in direct action. Hey, I and others did more than our share back then. Our kids have grown up. It's now up to the current dads to decide their future. If you're going to do nothing but complain then you really have no right to complain. Good luck lads, I just thought I might be able to get some out from behind a computer screen and take the fight to the streets. I'll leave you to the future that you choose to accept.
    By:Trevor Arthurson from QLD, Australia on October 10, 2013 @ 1:37 am
    I just noticed you said, "...if you did something". IF? IF? How dare you? Look at the guys in that video, every one of us were DOING many things to effect change. Go fire up a few rallies on the steps of the family court and get a media crew there. Do it next week. Come on, what's your excuse?
    By:Trevor Arthurson from Qld, Australia on October 10, 2013 @ 1:22 am
    I don't see any going to "extremes" in the media though. So, where are these dads? As for going back to the mother land comment, I was born and have lived my entire life here in Australia. Served in the military here too. I am 100% Australian and that's why I'm so disgusted with the cry baby attitude of just all those Australian dads who "say" they'd do anything to get their kids back but actually "do" very little in that regard. This equates to a lot of talk and no real "action". Anyway, I "did" my share for the cause for all those years. If every dad in this country stepped up and did something to continually highlight the injustice in a dramatic manner there would be some chance for change. Talking and complaining, however, will never effect change. Therefore, you can't expect anything to change. Those of us who did engage in direct action and civil disobedience did effect changes to the Child Support system. I hoped that others would take up the fight to advance the cause. Instead the just offered anonymous verbal support. The number of times I heard, "But I might get arrested." by the sissies was sickening. Anyway, if dads are only going to complain the the shouldn't complain because it's not going to change anything. If dads operate within the "system" then they are demonstrating that the support that system. So, Australian dads deserve what they're getting because they're DOING NOTHING to change it. I shouldn't expect a batch of ineffectual fairy cakes to man up and FIGHT for their honor and the respect of their kids after more than a generation of fatherlessness has resulted in a society that has no understanding of honour or respect. I'm out!
    shane - By:shane from QLD, Australia on February 3, 2014 @ 9:29 am
    Without getting into a slanging match but if you have done something for this worthy cause then good on you but that doesn't give you the right to act like a goose and judge other fathers who are in the middle of going through hell in the family court system.I don't care who you are,there would be plenty of dads out there who would go to extremes to protect their children not just you matey,think its time you went back to the motherland if that's the way you think
    140. By:Trevor Arthurson from Qld, Australia on October 9, 2013 @ 10:21 pm
    Shane (no surname) here's the link to save you looking.


    It's quite repulsive for you to question my identity whilst failing to disclose your own. But, it's not surprising, most Australian dads are too scared to stand up and be counted.
    By:Trevor Arthurson from Qld, Australia on October 9, 2013 @ 10:07 pm
    Been all over Australia Shane (no surname) and appeared on 60 Minutes. Have listened to literally thousands of dads and each one believed their own circumstances were unique, but in reality, every story holds remarkable similarities. Shane, one you have organised multiple acts of civil disobedience and appeared on 60 Minutes as a Fathers' Rights Activist you'll be able to criticize me. Until then, I'm sorry mate, but I can only laugh at any criticism you level toward me. Do some research, or just scroll down the page and find the link to the 60 Minutes video. I don't hide behind pseudonyms or half names. My description of Australian dads is based in fact and years of experience as a Fathers' Rights Activist. If you possessed equivalent knowledge and experience you'd be qualified to comment on my posts.
    wake up - By:shane from QLD, Australia on February 3, 2014 @ 9:48 am
    Come to townsville mate,trev or who ever you are,you don't get any prizes for tootin your own little horn.There's many dads out there who don't need some small minded self absorbed fuckqit giving them shit.Everyone's case is different
    By:Trevor Arthurson from Qld, Australia on October 9, 2013 @ 9:15 pm
    Oh, David, have you noticed how the Aussie dads are too gutless to post thdaughter name? That shows how the Aussie dads differ from the UK dads. I have a video of me on national TV fighting for time with my daughter that shows her just what I was willing to do to be a real dad to her. I have to ask every Australian dad, "What can you show to your kids to prove your dedication to fight for equal time with them?"

    Sadly, the number of Australian dads that have actually 'done' something (anything) could be counted by a 2 year old.
    By:Trevor Arthurson from QLD, Australia on October 9, 2013 @ 8:46 pm
    Wah, wah, wah! Name & shame? FFS! Weak as p!ss! Ever heard of civil disobedience? Throw on a superhero outfit and cause a 2 hour CBD traffic jam during morning peak hour, give the Aussie economy a swift kick in the nuts. That will have a real impact and get the politicians, media and public attention. Wow, 9 years down the track and nothing has been learned. This is why I gave up trying to fight for dads who just won't get off their @rses for the sake of their children. Oh, BTW, no I don't know who... If you don't have the guts to put your full name behind your comments then you're just part of the problem and offer nothing to the solution.
    By:Trevor Arthurson from Qld, Australia on October 9, 2013 @ 8:29 pm
    LMAO David, Australian dads are pussies! Mate, there were less than a dozen dads with the guts and conviction to engage in direct action 9 years ago and that number has dropped. There are thousands that will sit on the sidelines cheering the activists on, but are too gutless to get involved. Matt O'Connor and the POMs know what's needed, but Aussie dads lack the balls. I thought Australian dads could show the English dads a thing or two when we tried bringing Matt's F4J into Australia. It didn't take long to learn that even after nationwide coverage on 60 Minutes that Australian males were emasculated way back in the 70s and what's left are a bunch of flacid, impotent pansies. The truth hurts, doesn't it?
    History proves what works when words are - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on October 9, 2013 @ 8:06 pm
    We need the issue to be known by the general public, for the issue to be public knowledge by being seen on their TV's, and in my opinion and from my experience this can only happen by a campaign of sustained Direct Action, I realise that this has been done already by groups such as F4J and RF4J etc but not for long enough or ins big enough scale!. When I was involved with the road building protests of the 90's we had the MSM falling over each other to get interviews etc with us. So what I believe is needed is for the Fathers rights movement to adopt the same campaign strategies as we used in the 90's and as the animal rights movement uses, why re invent the wheel?
    Who really cares about us men & fathers - By:Brian J from SA, Australia on October 12, 2013 @ 11:17 am
    despite appearances people don't care about men and fathers, not really. men, fathers, families and humanity is being destroyed on a daily basis. unless change to better support fathers and men is better implemented soon, humanity will cease to function. what world will it be without men and fathers?
    distraught and confused - By:shane from QLD, australia on February 3, 2014 @ 9:48 am
    I hav had all day to chew on family report writers conclusionand I can now honestly say I am on the verge of giving up,it all seems so pointless,how can these aparent professionals believe the lies of a family who have lost their kids in 2 countries over a father who caught the abuse going on.Is all they had to do is lie and tell some good lies about me and bang im a woman basher and sex offender,how dare these people ignore the history and turn it on me with no evidence,I have witnesses but that doesnt matter,a family of mentally ill child abusers holds far more weight if they back each other up than a loving father who is trying to save his children from known abusers.If I cant protect my children then what good am I!What has happened to this world,do these professionals go home to their children thinking to themselves haha im a better parent than that innocent father I fucked over today,I wonder if they feel good about it?I bet some of them do!How do I explain to my children when they are older why this happened after years of psychological abuse and the inevitable physical with a family like this.How can this happen,can some professional please explain,what will it take,why is purjory a joke,the law book states it is a serious offence but thats just a joke,there are no serious repercussions,what will it take for these so called professionals and experts to realise they are hurting families just as much as the abusers themselves,when will the authorities take it seriously or atleast answer for there actions so people might be able to understand a little better so we know where there coming from.
    bias and incompetence - By:shane from QLD, australia on February 3, 2014 @ 9:26 am
    ICL-Joanne Meade,Legal Aid Townsville.Family Report Writer-Virginia Mckendrick,both corrupt
    130. bias and incompetence - By:MrNatural from Vic, Australia on February 21, 2016 @ 7:09 pm
    Hi Shane, an ICL or whatever rubbish they are named these days [a misnomer at best], is 99% in favour of the mum notwithstanding serious allegations/evidence against a mother.

    By default ICLs and those in the court system at large make judgments for the mother most of the time. 99% of trials [final hearings] are won by the mother. This is so there are no consistent public precedents that can be used against mothers at any time.

    Unfortunately in the family court game ICL's hold the balance of power. The only way is to influence ICL to do the right thing, either by a big law firm costing you big bucks [with an agreement in writing no kids - no money], replace the current ICL with another one of more credibility (can be done but still dodgy and not an easy task), and then there is taking your case public stating how negligent the ICL is. [Also hard but only way in that system]. When you as a Dad are damned in that system, fight for truth outside of it.

    It's no wonder many parents abscond with the child as the system is bloody useless for Dads and most importantly, our kids in trouble!
    Understanding the Reform Process - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on September 5, 2013 @ 7:30 am
    Children and Adoption Bill debate 20th June 2006


    Children and Adoption Bill debate

    20 Jun 2006 : Column 1282

    Tim Loughton: I am grateful to my hon. Friend. Of course, as well as those who do not sign early-day motions for reasons of personal choice, there are Ministers, who cannot sign them. That means that a vast majority of free-thinking Members put their pens to the motion. Only 146 of those 345, however, were prepared to go into the Lobby this evening, when it really mattered. That speaks volumes about the attitude of certain Members.


    Child Contact: Understanding the Reform Process

    The article below summarises the anomalies in the UK legal system and the history of UK family law reform The piece was first published in the June 1999 edition of Public Eye shortly before the accelerated departure of the Lord Chancellor's Head of Family Policy, William Arnold. Points to consider are:

    (i) the Family Court Welfare Service (FCWS), to which frequent reference is made, was the predecessor service to CAFCASS.

    (ii) the FCWS, which came under the Home Office, was disbanded in April 2001.

    (iii) by the time that the Home Office conceded that its FCWS staff were untrained, no time remained to train them.

    (iv) untrained FCWS staff were transferred without (re)training to CAFCASS.

    The Way Things Are

    Hence the same defective FCWS system, described in the article below, continued unaltered as from 2001, but under the auspices of CAFCASS instead of the FCWS. Things were otherwise unchanged. Developments thereafter were:


    The major reforms (described at the tail-end of the article) went ahead, by-passing CAFCASS. These measures collectively known as EI - were eventually agreed by the legal establishment and by the Government, which announced them, funded them, passed them for implementation and set aside parliamentary time to draft the enabling statute


    A rogue DfES civil servant, acting without authorisation, discarded the EI file he was meant to implement, without reading it; and replaced the agreed reforms with a concept of his own, which he thought was the same, but which was actually:

    the reverse of the agreed reforms
    the same as the existing system
    Meanwhile, this civil servant continued to tell Ministers that the agreed reforms were still going through. Hence the current position:

    the agreed reforms have been (a) announced and (b) destroyed
    the legal system is now the reverse of what it is now said to be
    the substitute DfES reforms have disappeared without trace
    the 2006 Contact and Adoption Bill has disappeared without trace

    No useful reform measures are currently in process or envisaged. Nor can they take place until reinstatement of the agreed EI reforms. As set out above, the existing legal system is now the opposite of what it is said to be. It does the opposite of what it said to do: it prevents rather than facilitates the attainment of reasonable contact. Hence refinements to this legal system merely make it better at doing the reverse of what it is said to do. That is, they make things worse.

    The role of the current Ministers in this Government is limited to the advice from their civil servants; and the role of these civil servants is to prevent Ministers finding out what went wrong.

    Nothing will change until the Government changes.

    bias and incompetence - By:shane from QLD, australia on February 3, 2014 @ 9:26 am
    Today I found out what the family report writer and ICL advise to happen.I caught my wife and her mother in bed naked and wifes mother breastfeeding my nearly 3year old son,DOCS investigate,find nothing.I finally get my day in Federal Court and get 50/50,wife contravenes first day,go back to court next day,heard exparte and get 100 percent custody of my son.Wife abducted kids 2 months prior.Have been through hell trying to protect my kids,wife and her family make malicious false allegations and are believed by ICL,Family Report writer and probably DOCS as well the way things are looking.Wifes mother lost kids in NZ for psychological abuse,physical abuse and chronic neglect,also allegations of sodomy of own baby,they come to australia and lose their kids again in Qld and NT for same thing,my wife grew up in this environment and thinks its normal,denies her family history.My son is molested and tortured by wife and her family,got son back with malnutrition,infected flea bites all over his body and a scar on his leg he says was caused by a hot knife,son claims grandma was sticking her fingers in his anus,son claims he played with pops penis in bedroom alone,son claims mumma helped hold hom down while hot knife was placed on his leg,son now attempts to masturbate,he is 3 years old and many other allegations by my son,I have video footage and voice recordings.Conclusion by ICL and Family Report Writer;Child should be returned to mother,it is likely father bashed wife repeatedly during marriage,father is an alcoholic and taught son to masturbate.WTF who are these people they were bias from the beginning and were lining me up and it was easy to see,they didnt even investigate the false allegations which was easy to prove,they want my children to go back to live with pedofiles,what the hell is going on here,I am dumbfounded
    A Joke - By:Johnno from QLD, Australia on August 28, 2013 @ 12:17 pm
    Q - What's the difference between the family court, pokie machines, women and prostitutes?

    A - Nothing. They all suck you dry.
    By:Quolls from Qld, Australia on August 27, 2013 @ 11:25 am
    @ Father Michael, everyone knows he bible is complete BS, and the church is controlling and manipulative, Narcisstic, harbors Paedophiles, as is your comments glib, Narcisstic and uncaring.

    Why should corrupt law industry be allowed to exploit and destroy children and families for profit?

    Psychological Warfare (PSYWAR), or the basic aspects of modern psychological operations (PSYOP), have been known by many other names or terms, including Psy Ops, Political Warfare, “Hearts and Minds”, and Propaganda.[1] Various techniques are used, by any set of groups, and aimed to influence a target audience's value systems, belief systems, emotions, motives, reasoning, or behaviour. It is used to induce confessions or reinforce attitudes and behaviours favorable to the originator's objectives, and are sometimes combined with black operations or false flag tactics. Target audiences can be governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

    In Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes, Jacques Ellul discusses psychological warfare as a common peace policy practice between nations as a form of indirect aggression in place of military aggression. This type of propaganda drains the public opinion of an opposing regime by stripping away its power on public opinion. This form of aggression is hard to defend against because no international court of justice is capable of protecting against psychological aggression since it cannot be legally adjudicated. The only defense is using the same means of psychological warfare. It is the burden of every government to defend its state against propaganda aggression. "Here the propagandists is [sic] dealing with a foreign adversary whose morale he seeks to destroy by psychological means so that the opponent begins to doubt the validity of his beliefs and actions."[2] The tactic has long been used by hate groups such as the KKK in order to perpetuate their grasp on power and view of the world. [3]

    The U.S. Department of Defense defines psychological warfare as:

    "The planned use of propaganda and other psychological actions having the primary purpose of influencing the opinions, emotions, attitudes, and behavior of hostile foreign groups in such a way as to support the achievement of national objectives."[4]

    This definition indicates that a critical element of the U.S. psychological operations capabilities includes propaganda and by extension counterpropaganda. Joint Publication 3-53 establishes specific policy to use public affairs mediums to counterpropaganda from foreign origins. [5]

    During World War II the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff defined psychological warfare more broadly stating "Psychological warfare employs any weapon to influence the mind of the enemy. The weapons are psychological only in the effect they produce and not because of the weapons themselves."[6]
    Love and Peace - By:Father Michael from Victoria, Australia on August 23, 2013 @ 8:40 am
    In the beginning we all suffer loss, grief and immaturity in some form or another. This is what we call life.

    Part of this process can include blaming others for what has happened ie. our ex-wife, lawyers and judges. We all have at one time or another and for some of us we still curse here and there as the pain still lingers. Nobody is perfect or right all the time.

    However, the real enemy is within each and everyone of us. Therein lay the demons. Demons that take time, work and of course real conviction to come to terms with the truth. It's not an easy road but a necessary one to find peace.

    People who suicide are unable or unwilling to do the hard work, hence look for peace in death. The real shame is death to our children.

    Hence, the quicker we are at peace the sooner we can help other families and our community, to ensure deaths don't happen to our children, albeit in other families.

    The answers are within. God bless us all.
    killer judges killer courts - By:Admin from Victoria, Australia on August 22, 2013 @ 9:56 am
    Great idea Steve, however as much as many of us feel excruciating pain, a sense of injustice, loss of power, control, expectations and common sense at times from our perspective, if we did a name and shame wall the truth is we would have to put all our names on it. It would be reasonable to assert all of us have at one time or another acted shamefully or foolish in some form, hence must accept some responsibility for our part in the family demise either directly or indirectly.

    However, if positive suggestions of this idea can be put forth a workable concept may arise that may contribute value.

    There comes alot of negativity from shame walls unless they are directed at high public office profiles who repeatedly abuse their power or office, and where there appears to be no alternative recourse to neutralise this harm. Although having the masses protesting in the streets would of course achieve an effective result.

    Finally, anything can be said about anyone for anyone to read at anytime on a shame wall, regardless of fact or truth, but simply someone's pain and opinion talking. Everyone has their own story. The roots of personal responsibility run deeper than many of us in the first instance tend to realise.

    "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven."
    — KJB Luke 6:37
    Some History - By:Trevor Arthurson from Queensland, Australia on August 21, 2013 @ 11:02 pm
    Good luck guys.

    9 years ago, just a handful of genuine activists were fighting hard for change. Unfortunately, most dads didn't have the guts to participate and just stood on the sidelines saying things like, "Good on you." but never, ever got actively involved.

    After too many years of dads not having the guts to get involved, I moved on to carry on my own personal struggle. Why should any dad fight for the rights of others if those others won't participate in that fight?

    My daughter is now 16 and her mother continues to poison her and limit access in order to maximise the amount of child support she receives. But, what makes things different for me is that my daugter can watch this video and know exactly what her dad did to be able to spend more time with her. How many of you can say the same? Go out and fight for God's sake. Get arrested, get a name for yourself, show your kids just how far you'll go to be a real father figure and male role model to them. Grow a pair and be prepared to put them on the line.

    Anyway, here's a little something for posterity.




    P.S. At least have the wherewithal to use your full name, your surname is the name that your children will carry and should be proud of.
    Child protection. - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on July 9, 2013 @ 11:02 am
    In the UK all the child abuse agencies only collect information on children & not perpetrators & funding is given on the basis of need not on reducing problems.

    They spend Billions a year on domestic abuse & they haven't even agreed on what it is yet' or accepted gender specific domestic violence polices' don't work & they haven't got a clue when it comes to child protection. No idea on what needs to be done or why. A bit like care really means they don't the same thing applies' they don't have a clue.
    Action being taken. - By:P Butler from NSW, Australia on July 9, 2013 @ 10:31 am
    Neither K Rudd or T Abbott is making noises about repealing the J Gillard changes to F Law. No one is promising to fix North Korea's penal system either. People having their say, such as on this site, is the type of action that eventually causes change.
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