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A vitally important place to air your emotions, how you feel and what you think!

The F4J Have Your Say area is simply a place for everyone where you get the Freedom, Peace, Love and Respect to share what's going on for you.

There is no right or wrong about what you say or how you say it —
the main thing is you let it out!

So have your say, vent your spleen, say your peace, let your feelings, emotions and thoughts run free as opposed to bottling it up causing ill health in you and for others.

Chances are there is somebody relating to exactly what's happening or of concern to you. What you say may very well help others as well as yourself. Once we all realise we are not alone and we are all in this together in one form or another, as living men and women with fundamentally the same psychological and biological structure, a great sense of relief and peace can come from this knowing.

However, the only condition in this forum is we ask you not to identify family members by their true names. Not because of man made rules, fear or ignorance, but purely based on respect for yourself, your family and reasons of higher good, else you're free to let loose.

This Have Your Say section is an open forum and not censored as such giving you the freedom to let rip with whatever's on your mind.

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    By:Trevor Arthurson from Qld, Australia on October 9, 2013 @ 10:15 am
    Oh, David, have you noticed how the Aussie dads are too gutless to post thdaughter name? That shows how the Aussie dads differ from the UK dads. I have a video of me on national TV fighting for time with my daughter that shows her just what I was willing to do to be a real dad to her. I have to ask every Australian dad, "What can you show to your kids to prove your dedication to fight for equal time with them?"

    Sadly, the number of Australian dads that have actually 'done' something (anything) could be counted by a 2 year old.
    By:Trevor Arthurson from QLD, Australia on October 9, 2013 @ 9:46 am
    Wah, wah, wah! Name & shame? FFS! Weak as p!ss! Ever heard of civil disobedience? Throw on a superhero outfit and cause a 2 hour CBD traffic jam during morning peak hour, give the Aussie economy a swift kick in the nuts. That will have a real impact and get the politicians, media and public attention. Wow, 9 years down the track and nothing has been learned. This is why I gave up trying to fight for dads who just won't get off their @rses for the sake of their children. Oh, BTW, no I don't know who... If you don't have the guts to put your full name behind your comments then you're just part of the problem and offer nothing to the solution.
    By:Trevor Arthurson from Qld, Australia on October 9, 2013 @ 9:29 am
    LMAO David, Australian dads are pussies! Mate, there were less than a dozen dads with the guts and conviction to engage in direct action 9 years ago and that number has dropped. There are thousands that will sit on the sidelines cheering the activists on, but are too gutless to get involved. Matt O'Connor and the POMs know what's needed, but Aussie dads lack the balls. I thought Australian dads could show the English dads a thing or two when we tried bringing Matt's F4J into Australia. It didn't take long to learn that even after nationwide coverage on 60 Minutes that Australian males were emasculated way back in the 70s and what's left are a bunch of flacid, impotent pansies. The truth hurts, doesn't it?
    History proves what works when words are - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on October 9, 2013 @ 9:06 am
    We need the issue to be known by the general public, for the issue to be public knowledge by being seen on their TV's, and in my opinion and from my experience this can only happen by a campaign of sustained Direct Action, I realise that this has been done already by groups such as F4J and RF4J etc but not for long enough or ins big enough scale!. When I was involved with the road building protests of the 90's we had the MSM falling over each other to get interviews etc with us. So what I believe is needed is for the Fathers rights movement to adopt the same campaign strategies as we used in the 90's and as the animal rights movement uses, why re invent the wheel?
    Who really cares about us men & fathers - By:Brian J from SA, Australia on October 12, 2013 @ 12:17 am
    despite appearances people don't care about men and fathers, not really. men, fathers, families and humanity is being destroyed on a daily basis. unless change to better support fathers and men is better implemented soon, humanity will cease to function. what world will it be without men and fathers?
    distraught and confused - By:shane from QLD, australia on February 2, 2014 @ 10:48 pm
    I hav had all day to chew on family report writers conclusionand I can now honestly say I am on the verge of giving up,it all seems so pointless,how can these aparent professionals believe the lies of a family who have lost their kids in 2 countries over a father who caught the abuse going on.Is all they had to do is lie and tell some good lies about me and bang im a woman basher and sex offender,how dare these people ignore the history and turn it on me with no evidence,I have witnesses but that doesnt matter,a family of mentally ill child abusers holds far more weight if they back each other up than a loving father who is trying to save his children from known abusers.If I cant protect my children then what good am I!What has happened to this world,do these professionals go home to their children thinking to themselves haha im a better parent than that innocent father I fucked over today,I wonder if they feel good about it?I bet some of them do!How do I explain to my children when they are older why this happened after years of psychological abuse and the inevitable physical with a family like this.How can this happen,can some professional please explain,what will it take,why is purjory a joke,the law book states it is a serious offence but thats just a joke,there are no serious repercussions,what will it take for these so called professionals and experts to realise they are hurting families just as much as the abusers themselves,when will the authorities take it seriously or atleast answer for there actions so people might be able to understand a little better so we know where there coming from.
    bias and incompetence - By:shane from QLD, australia on February 2, 2014 @ 10:26 pm
    ICL-Joanne Meade,Legal Aid Townsville.Family Report Writer-Virginia Mckendrick,both corrupt
    130. bias and incompetence - By:MrNatural from Vic, Australia on February 21, 2016 @ 8:09 am
    Hi Shane, an ICL or whatever rubbish they are named these days [a misnomer at best], is 99% in favour of the mum notwithstanding serious allegations/evidence against a mother.

    By default ICLs and those in the court system at large make judgments for the mother most of the time. 99% of trials [final hearings] are won by the mother. This is so there are no consistent public precedents that can be used against mothers at any time.

    Unfortunately in the family court game ICL's hold the balance of power. The only way is to influence ICL to do the right thing, either by a big law firm costing you big bucks [with an agreement in writing no kids - no money], replace the current ICL with another one of more credibility (can be done but still dodgy and not an easy task), and then there is taking your case public stating how negligent the ICL is. [Also hard but only way in that system]. When you as a Dad are damned in that system, fight for truth outside of it.

    It's no wonder many parents abscond with the child as the system is bloody useless for Dads and most importantly, our kids in trouble!
    Understanding the Reform Process - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on September 4, 2013 @ 9:30 pm
    Children and Adoption Bill debate 20th June 2006


    Children and Adoption Bill debate

    20 Jun 2006 : Column 1282

    Tim Loughton: I am grateful to my hon. Friend. Of course, as well as those who do not sign early-day motions for reasons of personal choice, there are Ministers, who cannot sign them. That means that a vast majority of free-thinking Members put their pens to the motion. Only 146 of those 345, however, were prepared to go into the Lobby this evening, when it really mattered. That speaks volumes about the attitude of certain Members.


    Child Contact: Understanding the Reform Process

    The article below summarises the anomalies in the UK legal system and the history of UK family law reform The piece was first published in the June 1999 edition of Public Eye shortly before the accelerated departure of the Lord Chancellor's Head of Family Policy, William Arnold. Points to consider are:

    (i) the Family Court Welfare Service (FCWS), to which frequent reference is made, was the predecessor service to CAFCASS.

    (ii) the FCWS, which came under the Home Office, was disbanded in April 2001.

    (iii) by the time that the Home Office conceded that its FCWS staff were untrained, no time remained to train them.

    (iv) untrained FCWS staff were transferred without (re)training to CAFCASS.

    The Way Things Are

    Hence the same defective FCWS system, described in the article below, continued unaltered as from 2001, but under the auspices of CAFCASS instead of the FCWS. Things were otherwise unchanged. Developments thereafter were:


    The major reforms (described at the tail-end of the article) went ahead, by-passing CAFCASS. These measures collectively known as EI - were eventually agreed by the legal establishment and by the Government, which announced them, funded them, passed them for implementation and set aside parliamentary time to draft the enabling statute


    A rogue DfES civil servant, acting without authorisation, discarded the EI file he was meant to implement, without reading it; and replaced the agreed reforms with a concept of his own, which he thought was the same, but which was actually:

    the reverse of the agreed reforms
    the same as the existing system
    Meanwhile, this civil servant continued to tell Ministers that the agreed reforms were still going through. Hence the current position:

    the agreed reforms have been (a) announced and (b) destroyed
    the legal system is now the reverse of what it is now said to be
    the substitute DfES reforms have disappeared without trace
    the 2006 Contact and Adoption Bill has disappeared without trace

    No useful reform measures are currently in process or envisaged. Nor can they take place until reinstatement of the agreed EI reforms. As set out above, the existing legal system is now the opposite of what it is said to be. It does the opposite of what it said to do: it prevents rather than facilitates the attainment of reasonable contact. Hence refinements to this legal system merely make it better at doing the reverse of what it is said to do. That is, they make things worse.

    The role of the current Ministers in this Government is limited to the advice from their civil servants; and the role of these civil servants is to prevent Ministers finding out what went wrong.

    Nothing will change until the Government changes.

    bias and incompetence - By:shane from QLD, australia on February 2, 2014 @ 10:26 pm
    Today I found out what the family report writer and ICL advise to happen.I caught my wife and her mother in bed naked and wifes mother breastfeeding my nearly 3year old son,DOCS investigate,find nothing.I finally get my day in Federal Court and get 50/50,wife contravenes first day,go back to court next day,heard exparte and get 100 percent custody of my son.Wife abducted kids 2 months prior.Have been through hell trying to protect my kids,wife and her family make malicious false allegations and are believed by ICL,Family Report writer and probably DOCS as well the way things are looking.Wifes mother lost kids in NZ for psychological abuse,physical abuse and chronic neglect,also allegations of sodomy of own baby,they come to australia and lose their kids again in Qld and NT for same thing,my wife grew up in this environment and thinks its normal,denies her family history.My son is molested and tortured by wife and her family,got son back with malnutrition,infected flea bites all over his body and a scar on his leg he says was caused by a hot knife,son claims grandma was sticking her fingers in his anus,son claims he played with pops penis in bedroom alone,son claims mumma helped hold hom down while hot knife was placed on his leg,son now attempts to masturbate,he is 3 years old and many other allegations by my son,I have video footage and voice recordings.Conclusion by ICL and Family Report Writer;Child should be returned to mother,it is likely father bashed wife repeatedly during marriage,father is an alcoholic and taught son to masturbate.WTF who are these people they were bias from the beginning and were lining me up and it was easy to see,they didnt even investigate the false allegations which was easy to prove,they want my children to go back to live with pedofiles,what the hell is going on here,I am dumbfounded
    A Joke - By:Johnno from QLD, Australia on December 26, 2019 @ 11:58 am
    Q - What's the difference between the family court, pokie machines, women and prostitutes?

    A - Nothing. They all suck you dry.
    By:Quolls from Qld, Australia on August 27, 2013 @ 1:25 am
    @ Father Michael, everyone knows he bible is complete BS, and the church is controlling and manipulative, Narcisstic, harbors Paedophiles, as is your comments glib, Narcisstic and uncaring.

    Why should corrupt law industry be allowed to exploit and destroy children and families for profit?

    Psychological Warfare (PSYWAR), or the basic aspects of modern psychological operations (PSYOP), have been known by many other names or terms, including Psy Ops, Political Warfare, “Hearts and Minds”, and Propaganda.[1] Various techniques are used, by any set of groups, and aimed to influence a target audience's value systems, belief systems, emotions, motives, reasoning, or behaviour. It is used to induce confessions or reinforce attitudes and behaviours favorable to the originator's objectives, and are sometimes combined with black operations or false flag tactics. Target audiences can be governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.

    In Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes, Jacques Ellul discusses psychological warfare as a common peace policy practice between nations as a form of indirect aggression in place of military aggression. This type of propaganda drains the public opinion of an opposing regime by stripping away its power on public opinion. This form of aggression is hard to defend against because no international court of justice is capable of protecting against psychological aggression since it cannot be legally adjudicated. The only defense is using the same means of psychological warfare. It is the burden of every government to defend its state against propaganda aggression. "Here the propagandists is [sic] dealing with a foreign adversary whose morale he seeks to destroy by psychological means so that the opponent begins to doubt the validity of his beliefs and actions."[2] The tactic has long been used by hate groups such as the KKK in order to perpetuate their grasp on power and view of the world. [3]

    The U.S. Department of Defense defines psychological warfare as:

    "The planned use of propaganda and other psychological actions having the primary purpose of influencing the opinions, emotions, attitudes, and behavior of hostile foreign groups in such a way as to support the achievement of national objectives."[4]

    This definition indicates that a critical element of the U.S. psychological operations capabilities includes propaganda and by extension counterpropaganda. Joint Publication 3-53 establishes specific policy to use public affairs mediums to counterpropaganda from foreign origins. [5]

    During World War II the United States Joint Chiefs of Staff defined psychological warfare more broadly stating "Psychological warfare employs any weapon to influence the mind of the enemy. The weapons are psychological only in the effect they produce and not because of the weapons themselves."[6]
    Love and Peace - By:Father Michael from Victoria, Australia on December 26, 2019 @ 11:58 am
    In the beginning we all suffer loss, grief and immaturity in some form or another. This is what we call life.

    Part of this process can include blaming others for what has happened ie. our ex-wife, lawyers and judges. We all have at one time or another and for some of us we still curse here and there as the pain still lingers. Nobody is perfect or right all the time.

    However, the real enemy is within each and everyone of us. Therein lay the demons. Demons that take time, work and of course real conviction to come to terms with the truth. It's not an easy road but a necessary one to find peace.

    People who suicide are unable or unwilling to do the hard work, hence look for peace in death. The real shame is death to our children.

    Hence, the quicker we are at peace the sooner we can help other families and our community, to ensure deaths don't happen to our children, albeit in other families.

    The answers are within. God bless us all.
    killer judges killer courts - By:Admin from Victoria, Australia on August 21, 2013 @ 11:56 pm
    Great idea Steve, however as much as many of us feel excruciating pain, a sense of injustice, loss of power, control, expectations and common sense at times from our perspective, if we did a name and shame wall the truth is we would have to put all our names on it. It would be reasonable to assert all of us have at one time or another acted shamefully or foolish in some form, hence must accept some responsibility for our part in the family demise either directly or indirectly.

    However, if positive suggestions of this idea can be put forth a workable concept may arise that may contribute value.

    There comes alot of negativity from shame walls unless they are directed at high public office profiles who repeatedly abuse their power or office, and where there appears to be no alternative recourse to neutralise this harm. Although having the masses protesting in the streets would of course achieve an effective result.

    Finally, anything can be said about anyone for anyone to read at anytime on a shame wall, regardless of fact or truth, but simply someone's pain and opinion talking. Everyone has their own story. The roots of personal responsibility run deeper than many of us in the first instance tend to realise.

    "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven."
    — KJB Luke 6:37
    Some History - By:Trevor Arthurson from Queensland, Australia on August 21, 2013 @ 1:02 pm
    Good luck guys.

    9 years ago, just a handful of genuine activists were fighting hard for change. Unfortunately, most dads didn't have the guts to participate and just stood on the sidelines saying things like, "Good on you." but never, ever got actively involved.

    After too many years of dads not having the guts to get involved, I moved on to carry on my own personal struggle. Why should any dad fight for the rights of others if those others won't participate in that fight?

    My daughter is now 16 and her mother continues to poison her and limit access in order to maximise the amount of child support she receives. But, what makes things different for me is that my daugter can watch this video and know exactly what her dad did to be able to spend more time with her. How many of you can say the same? Go out and fight for God's sake. Get arrested, get a name for yourself, show your kids just how far you'll go to be a real father figure and male role model to them. Grow a pair and be prepared to put them on the line.

    Anyway, here's a little something for posterity.




    P.S. At least have the wherewithal to use your full name, your surname is the name that your children will carry and should be proud of.
    Child protection. - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on July 9, 2013 @ 1:02 am
    In the UK all the child abuse agencies only collect information on children & not perpetrators & funding is given on the basis of need not on reducing problems.

    They spend Billions a year on domestic abuse & they haven't even agreed on what it is yet' or accepted gender specific domestic violence polices' don't work & they haven't got a clue when it comes to child protection. No idea on what needs to be done or why. A bit like care really means they don't the same thing applies' they don't have a clue.
    Action being taken. - By:P Butler from NSW, Australia on July 9, 2013 @ 12:31 am
    Neither K Rudd or T Abbott is making noises about repealing the J Gillard changes to F Law. No one is promising to fix North Korea's penal system either. People having their say, such as on this site, is the type of action that eventually causes change.
    120. Action required in the best interests of - By:David Mortimer from Milton Keynes, UK on July 6, 2013 @ 1:02 pm
    The children's act took away our legal rights to be parents & gave us responsibilities instead. The children's act does not give parents or grandparents a legal right to contact & nobody in our government or the family court system know how much contact a none resident parent needs to have with their children to ensure their long term relationship is sustainable despite the fact that there have been 7 family court inquiries since the children's act was first introduced.

    A child's "needs" cannot be optimally met by a single parent, however loving. Kruk's findings show that a child must spend at least 40% of his time with a parent to establish and maintain a beneficial attachment.

    David Cameron doesn't seem to care about what is in the best interests of children or he would of honored what the Conservatives pledged to do in their pre-election manifesto.



    On 17th October 2004 the Conservative Shadow Secretary of State for the Family, Theresa May, pledged to end the misery of the family courts. Unveiling a strategy for institutional change.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Ivor Catt
    Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 3:23 PM

    “We believe it is critical to most children that they have a good relationship with their mum and their dad. We know that it is usually also very important to both parents. When it is safe and consistent with the child’s welfare, ....” – Lisa ....
    Above is from the debate cited by David. This is the silver bullet, which destroys a father’s chance of helping to bring up his child(ren).
    In the past, I have reduced this to ridicule by suggeting that legislation making education compulsory be modified by the caveat; “Education of children is compulsory when it is safe and consistent with the child’s welfare.” There is no possi8bility that this caveat will be added in any other legislation enshrining a citizen’s rights. The purpose in the case of a father’s access to his child is to make it easy for a judge in a secret court to cause complete break between father and child, perhaps by refusing to enforce court orders when there is a hint of violence. It is nothing to do with a child’s safety.
    Ivor Catt
    csa - By:gman from vic, australia on July 6, 2013 @ 3:44 am
    well attempt two this didnt make the post

    when dealing with the csa always record any communications, you can buy a cheap voice recorder that plugs into the phone for like 20 bucks, tell them you are recording to train your lawyer, if the csa make any financial suggestions they can be reported and will get their arse kicked hard, make sure you ask them if they are a certified financial adviser?
    i cant recall the agency to report them to, so i will post when it comes back to me.
    always ask for a full name and id number if they wont give it just hang up.
    below - By:gman from vic, australia on July 6, 2013 @ 3:28 am
    hi Ive established that the csa are not a litigate commonwealth entity,(see truth-now.net), they refuse to supply their writs of commission. the only way to cease this agency is to place criminal charges or sue, i plan on following up with charges as soon as my family matter is finalized. i somehow imagine that the police will refuse this despite clear evidence of theft but i will soon find out.

    i have slowed the csa down over the years by citing their acts of limitations but now they just don't care, so they need to be held personally liable. Once the members start being charged for their own actions i imagine things will change rapidly.
    suing the agency is of no good as you may win by settlement but that establishes no precedence so your just fucking over your fellow man.
    i am now getting garnished even though i pay the ex directly and have signed receipts stating for child support, (like i said they don't care,they don't care because they know that they and the family court fuck us so hard that we cant afford accountability) they refuse to accept these receipts on the grounds that if they did my ex would not receive child support for some time due to the large credit,( i have this in writing) its a fucking joke, a few public hangings might be in order?
    i will gladly join a class action if any get started?? and/or support a bill to reinstate the death penalty for public officials acting outside their limitations.

    there is just no accountability for any officers or women in Australia, men are defiantly fucked by all.

    im now going to pressure my employer to cease garnishment as its unlawful without a court order, we will see how that goes?

    i'm also over the next twelve months going to go completely private and cash in hand and if these bastards try to enter my property to gain payment which i do not owe, they will be trespassing and face self defense, this is what it has come to.

    CSA Debt - Never goes down - By:Frank from QLD, Aust on February 2, 2014 @ 10:28 pm
    WTF....I pay an extra $740 per month to try an get a $7k debt paidd off because of an incorrect assesment and now I'm told that has increased to $22k!!
    Was told "well take a loan on your house or better still sell it"
    I work 70h hours a week to pay Tax and CSA - No life outside of work.... Can these bastards get you if your Dead?
    Still getting screwed over by C.S.A. - By:MrNatural from Vic, Australia on June 15, 2013 @ 8:05 am
    Can you provide some specifics Paul?
    There maybe many different solutions experienced.
    Still getting screwed over by C.S.A. - By:Paul Allison from Queensland, Australia on June 15, 2013 @ 6:28 am
    I don't know if you can help but I am looking for a site who can actually help me as my situation with the CSA has become absolutely & downright criminal..Can you please advise me as to whether there are sites who can advise& help me fight the CSA who are currently screwing up my life & robbing me blind! Any assistance would be greatly appreciated & the matter has now become extremely urgent. Please help if you can..Thanks, Paul.p.s..Please contact me via email..
    Are we Westerners Backward? - By:Barry who won't Marry from SA, OZ on May 10, 2013 @ 1:17 am
    Onya Dave, just back from Thailand and what the hell is WRONG with Australians for getting families and humans so wrong. Granted Thailand has some of it's infrastructure a bit down compared with the westernised world, but they're a million miles ahead with family and human values. I just hope western culture doesn't influence them on these points too much as they will be in trouble as a nation like we are. Even on the road they don't honk their horns at each other like us stress head impatient and rude westerners. They honk the many Buddha temples to acknowledge the wisdom that has quite clearly been bestowed upon them, but that's about all. this is one example where we can learn from each other to better us all. CHEERS TO ALL
    family court - By:dave from S.A, australia on April 17, 2013 @ 7:58 am
    is anyone interested in setting f4j groups up in adelaide? support for dads in the grinder, direct action and raising awareness, a manifesto for changes to the system? would anyone like to get this movement going again in SA? i'm not going to blog on about the issues(in this message).no.i'm wondering if there are people (men and women) who want to get active?
    centrelink csa - By:gman from vic, australia on March 22, 2013 @ 4:47 am
    Hi the CSA will not tell you though there is an amount of around $21,000 that is stated as self support, the CSA cannot make you pay any child support while on the basic dole.
    These changes took place during 2008 as a small step for the CSA to come into alignment with the declaration of human rights, however they will abuse your rights in every other manner.

    CSA debt - By:Martin from Qld, Ozzie on March 15, 2013 @ 3:57 am
    Am thinking of applying for newstart allowance as job has dried up & csa payments killing me for 3 kids. If on centrelink is there a way to reduce my csa liability of now about $29k?

    Drowning in debt from an unfair system!
    110. A New Idea - By:Steve B from SA, Australia on March 9, 2013 @ 4:40 am

    1. Parents don't separate until youngest 18


    2. Parents stay in counselling/mediation sessions until they work out mutually amicable plan to take care of kids until youngest 18.

    3. Everything 50/50 as if parents weren't separated.

    This may seem simple and unfair but so are the alternatives!

    Aust Rosella Co finished - By:Bewitched from Vic, Australia on December 5, 2012 @ 5:27 am
    With yet another Australian company going down the girgler, after reading the below, one can't help think this collapse was planned and forced. If only we could hear the real truth about the Rosella fall.

    "Without support Australia may lose the ability to grow and process food in the future, placing the food security at risk, said Mr Gurney.

    It is shocking to think of a food industry in Australia without a classic Australian brand such as Rosella, and action is desperately required to reverse this trend before all of our food is produced overseas," he said.

    Source: http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusiness/aap/8574592/rosella-receivership-news-shocking-ausveg
    Freedom of Google - By:F4J from Victoria, Australia on December 3, 2012 @ 9:49 pm
    The Web represents freedom to learn, grow and thrive - an inalienable right we all have.

    As predicted, Google is the next target to be controlled by those at the top.

    Read more and cast your vote at:
    Truth - By:Steve Butcher from Victoria, Australia on November 27, 2012 @ 11:49 pm
    "They must find it difficult...
    Those who have taken authority as the truth,
    Rather than the truth as authority."

    — G. Massey, Egyptologist
    ACA - Divorce Costs - By:MrNatural from Vic, Australia on November 20, 2012 @ 9:56 pm
    Speaking of A Current Affair

    that previous 2yo abuse story - By:gman from vic, australia on November 20, 2012 @ 6:42 am
    goto a current affair dude
    NOT HAPPY - By:Anonymous from nsw, Australia on November 20, 2012 @ 1:00 am
    When in the family court the evidence I was required to look at included actual footage of my 2yo daughter being abused by the local fire cheif and his mates. No way the police were going to investigate someone like that. Because it had been seen by the family court it couldn't be re-tried. The other heresay evidence meant the judge couldn't do anything either. Guess who doesn't get to see their kids because of what those **** state government people did. I hear you loud and clear Denny.
    NOT HAPPY - By:Denny from N.S.W, Australia on November 16, 2012 @ 8:34 pm
    My ex made a complaint to F.A.C.S saying she feard her father was having innapropriate relations with our 17 year old son ,when i found out a couple of days later they laughed it off like it was a joke ,wrote to Pru Gower -minister for F.A.C.S and they did nothing ,my 1 year old daughter is in care with the exes parents as my ex has bipolar and i am in detention @ Villawood - where do i stand ? any other situation the police would of been called ???? not happy - discrimination and failure on there behalf to protect my children .........
    Hooray for our side. - By:Peter Butler from nsw, Australia on November 14, 2012 @ 2:10 am
    Well done to you people for having your say.
    Absurd laws liken allowing hear-say evidence in F courts has always lead to nonsense judgements. Two well known examples are the inquisition and star chamber debacles.
    You people putting the latest up for all to see means we keep up to date on the latest issues.
    Keep up the good work!
    No care for women reply - By:gman from vic, australia on November 9, 2012 @ 10:56 pm
    i hear ya buddy, if one thing comes out of decades of family law abuse it will be men gaining their power back.
    100. Disgusted in the justice system - By:Steve Perry from Vic, Oz on December 26, 2019 @ 12:00 pm
    Onya Denny, wondered how that hole of a place was still going the good ol 'Family Caught'. It doesn't surprise me the FC processes are still antiquated, biased and broken down causing still to this day many a family hardship psychologically, emotionally and of course financially. Family assets often being looted under the guise of the best interests of the children. Huh.. best interests for themselves more like it.
    I'm sure if there was an FC like ours in Ireland it would have been leveled by now.
    Disgusted in the justice system - By:Denny .A from NSW, Australia on November 8, 2012 @ 6:34 am
    just wanted to add that in my recent experience with the family court, they are still very bias as far as the fathers rights are, we are a forgoten bunch that the people from F.A.C.S and other groups can manipulate to there advantage - wheres our say ???
    csa human rights abuses - By:Jerry from QLD, AUSTRALIA on November 5, 2012 @ 9:22 pm
    Can someone point me to the CSA objection by gman as cant see it!!... cheers in advance
    csa human rights abuses - By:gman from victoria, australia on October 31, 2012 @ 3:01 pm
    hi i wish to post my csa assessment objection as their decision clearly vilates human rights, though this objecion is five pages in length and over the prescribed posting length, is there any other way to post this here. this is such an objection that it creates criminal liablility on the csa members, i do not yet knnow the outcome though i suspect it will finalise with criminal charges.
    Stick to the point. - By:Peter Butler from NSW, Australia on October 30, 2012 @ 4:59 am
    The polls clearly show what happens once peaceful protest is silenced. The politicians distract us with buzz words like mysogeny and unfair tax. Even F4J has some protest about corruption in place of anything relevant on it's list of venues. If Australian men bend over and stop loudly objecting to our draconian family laws, then we'll be the men that allowed another stolen generation to happen.
    Where is your voice Australia? - By:Petie from New South Wales, Australia on October 29, 2012 @ 8:22 pm
    Australians and men just cop it on the chin alot of the time I think. We move on attempting to get away from the pain but we never really do. In hindsight I wished I had have stood up to my ex and the system all those years ago instead of running away. I miss my children and sorry for their pain and grief too. I hope they can one day forgive me and don't blame themselves. It sounds like a confession I know but the truth inside of me needs to come out.
    Where is your voice Australia? - By:George Cahill from NSW, Australia on September 12, 2012 @ 9:48 pm
    Many men in Australia are apathetic I'm afraid Davey.
    Convict conditioning, brainwashing or fear, call it what you like, many australian men are still asleep.

    Whilst many prefer dumbness, I prefer to be awake!!
    News Link! - By:Daveyone from London, England on February 1, 2019 @ 3:24 pm
    Great I can post on News Link again take a look!
    What does F4J stand for? - By:Hazr from act, australia on August 7, 2012 @ 12:55 am
    Reality check. Vigilantes grabbed children from Italy, even ignoring the international courts. One Wollongong woman hired mercinaries to take children overseas and not an eyebrow was raised. The pschological violence and financial depridation of family law is only a small part of what natural fathers are suffering. If we are descibed merely as 'sperm donors' then it is our detractors that are behaving like animals, not us.
    F4J appears to advocate love and justice. If that is correct then patience and peaceful protest are still our best friends.
    90. looking up 4 fathers - By:hazr from act, australia on July 24, 2012 @ 3:11 am
    Great pete! That and the hap mean the system is now fair, or is it yet another confidence trick?
    looking up 4 fathers - By:pete from nsw, aust on July 10, 2012 @ 8:54 am
    Spoke to a dad other day who said courts a giving dads more time with their kids. I was surprised in light of past years & my experience but nonetheless its good to hear fathers are not complaining anymore and things are on the up & up
    Men & Family Court 30yrs ago - By:wayne from vic, australia on June 14, 2012 @ 1:33 pm
    30 years on and many men who were abandoned by their wives and children humiliated and deeply scarred by the Family Court are now suffering, as their adult kids come back into their lives looking for answers, an inheritance, handouts and possibly instant gratification with financial rewards.

    Even a slap in the face from his daughter, as well as expecting sole title to a block of land that was earnt through many long hard years of recycling aluminum cans.

    Even his son now looks like the man he once knew as a family friend, who now upon looking back, did seem to hang around far too often.

    It all just hurts too much including getting old, especially after 30yrs of burying unresolved hurt and issues being abandoned, humiliated and emotionally starved of love.

    What will become of all these men?

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