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Who wants to be dictated to by the State on how you support your children what, how and when?
Whilst many views float around arguing for and against child support, most decent fathers and parents would argue the issue is not whether or not they wish to support their children, but rather the often unfair conditions imposed upon them.
Simply, it's an attack on the nature of a father's freedom and how he best wishes to raise and support his children in the many different ways a responsible father can, which are often more effective and benefical to a child than any 'slap-bang' instrument of government and statism can ever be.
For a father going through separation/divorce, experiencing the loss of family and children, horrendous false allegations, litigation, uncertainty of where your children are and how they are doing, often causes ill health, work and life instability in so many ways. Also, the effects from not having a fully functioning and emotionally present Dad in a child's life can be equally, if not more devestating as their development can be hindered considerably.
Then if that isn't bad enough, along comes an assessment from the Child Support Agency (CSA) for an outlandish sum of money based on your capacity to work at the highest rate when you were fit and able and on fire, which is possibly a stark contrast to where your financial position is today, or will be in the future if you are unable to recover from the upheaval of a traumatic separation that's often compared to a fate worse than death.
From 2006 CSA powers in Australia have increased to not only garnish your wages, but directly withdraw from bank accounts any amount they deem appropriate, siezing assets of any sort to pay the often highly questionable and unjust debts. As Fathers are assaulted with such draconian measures, one can only feel a sense of dictatorship giving rise to a totalitarian society not a free Australia causing fathers to unite and fight for their rights and freedom.
As there are many issues surrounding child support and the effects upon fathers, children and families,
We used one last year, paid $1000 for 12 months, they claimed to be ex employees of CSA so knew the system.
In the end they couldn't help, so it was a waste of money as CSA kept harrasing my husband and ignoring the fact that he someone else dealing with them on his behalf.
Not sure if its the same crowd though.
Just looking for additional support when dealing with CSA. Has anyone had any experience with these guys - child support consulting? They seem to offer a lot of support however, we want to know whether it's worth it and if anyone has had experience with them - good/bad before committing. Still not sure of the cost of the 12 month service but any feedback would be awesome!!! Thanks so much, stay strong xxx
I am not using a lawyer to represent me at the AAT. This may turn out to be a mistake. Time will tell.
In my specific case, in the CSA Objection decision, they state that they "Departed" from an administrative assessment (ie. using the standard formula and ATO taxable income) using "Section 98C(1)(b) of the Child Support (Assessment) Act 1989" as justification.
If you have not already done so, I would suggest reading the Child Support (Assessment) Act. What Section of the Act did they specify in your case ?
I had a similar experience with CSA.
I Objected to a Reason 8 change of assessment, and provided evidence to disprove my ex's original claims.
The officer reviewing the case ignored my objections, and allowed my ex to introduce new, previously unseen evidence, which she then used to justify a further increase to my Income.
I neither saw, nor had an opportunity to refute this new evidence before the decision was made.
I am currently appealing before the AAT.
ps. I find the following web site useful : http://flwg.com.au/forum
go onto AAT website my husband is in process of doing this.
to make sure his ex gets the money to help raise there son. so csa dont care about who else is affect just as long as mother gets money. i say get a freaking job and stop living off hard working people!!!
To take them on is easy just ask them the same question three times and they will give you three lots of bullshit . However ask a question in writing and they will ignore you because they can't loose or erase a written lie or the intimidation they try on the phone they won't dare send to you in a letter or email
It's easy to take them on and win if you know how make them work for it get everything in writing and if the rats don't respond go over their head and you will soon come to realise that they are very very defeat able. We all need to stand up to them instead of just laying down
tkjc - sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you are living in a delusion.... CSA DO have the power to make you pay whatever they WANT, and we ARE POWERLESS to do anything about it. That is why I have got the lawyers involved. it is eleventy kinds of wrong so if they tell me theres nothing that can be done LEGALLY then i'll accept that. I wont like it, but i will lick my wounds, pay the mother f!ckers and be done with it. My son is nearly 17 so there is light at the end of the tunnel for me. I have signed umpteen petitions and i will keep supporting for fairness, but in my opinion it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a "SYSTEM" administer something that is not a one size fits all. when two hetero-sexual-child-creating humans are no longer united in their decisions for the child then it becomes a threesome (me, her & CSA) play at WAR. where the mentality is "kill or be killed" everybody is wounded. there is no winners. only the scarred and less-scarred. when are we, as humans, going to look at this differently!!!!
How can you get an assessment that says you earn 20K but because one time you had six months where you did a different job and earned an extra 40K than normal that CS can now say that's what you have to earn all the time because you had the potential to do it one time
Last week i got legal advice. Apparently now CSA can use any amount you've ever earned in the past plus a bit of CPI. Can you believe it! I've added my counsel as my representative and they will handle it for me. I will let you know if anything further develops.
Perhaps it's time for everyone to understand where the problem maybe stemming from in order to fight back whenever + however you can against a tyranny that is growing daily, strangling ordinary mums + dads + families.
First step is to understand you own nothing. Whilst you think you may own private property, you don't. No ownership rights of property, money, children nor your name, nil, zilch, no-thing. It's no wonder things are taken from us against our will. Whilst spiritually we own nothing also, this is another matter.
Also, research what currency is and who owns it for a major piece to the puzzle.
Nil desperandum folks -- for now is the time, for us to be the solution!
I have a question.
When I went to school, albeit a long time ago, I was taught in arithmetic that 0 + 0 = 0, but CSA says that 0 + 0 = $65.000 per year. How does that work? It doesn't work for me.
Ky if your x has started his own business and its in a company name then csa cant touch any money from that business and have to go of what he says until he does his tax and only if he does his tax
If i earn 206,000 have 2 dependants already and pay $20k in child support for one child and another case is opened for a fourth child will i be paying another $20k?? So $40k??
They can't just fabricate numbers, although they think they can. Lodge an appeal immediately with the AAT. If you are being 100% honest here you will win. Do not wait as there are time limits.
this has never happened to me but i am not surprised at all.
CSA seem to have an unwritten law within themselves. it is a very unfair system. an example of how unfair the child support law is that if you underestimate your taxable income you will have to pay the difference at the end of the financial year and possibly a fine as well but if you overestimate your income you will get nothing back.
WHO WROTE THIS UNFAIR LAW?
I have been tying for a week to contact father4Equality.or an email address/phone number
I have a question regarding the CSA's calculation of "Taxable Income" and "Adjusted Taxable Income".
My tax return for the year ending June 2015 has been submitted timeously, and the ATO has mailed me my Notice Of Assessment.
The CSA has ignored the ATO figures, and have determined their own "Taxable Income" amount, significantly higher than the ATO amount. I raised an Objection to the amount, whereon, the CSA rejected my objection, and increased my Taxable Income further.
I am attempting to understand the legislation, with reference to this page : http://guides.dss.gov.au/child-support-guide/2/4/4#amendedti
The page states :
Generally, a parent's taxable income is the amount assessed by the Australian Taxation Office (ATO) under an Income Tax Assessment Act for the relevant year of income
I do not have any Foreign Income, Fringe Benefits or anything else that would trigger the use of an Amended Tax Assessment.
Within the framework of the law, are the CSA allowed to do this ? Am I missing some information, or is there more recent legislation ?
Any responses would be appreciated.