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Child Support — What does it all mean?
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Who wants to be dictated to by the State on how you support your children — what, how and when?

Whilst many views float around arguing for and against child support, most decent fathers and parents would argue the issue is not whether or not they wish to support their children, but rather the often unfair conditions imposed upon them.

Simply, it's an attack on the nature of a father's freedom and how he best wishes to raise and support his children in the many different ways a responsible father can, which are often more effective and benefical to a child than any 'slap-bang' instrument of government and statism can ever be.

For a father going through separation/divorce, experiencing the loss of family and children, horrendous false allegations, litigation, uncertainty of where your children are and how they are doing, often causes ill health, work and life instability in so many ways. Also, the effects from not having a fully functioning and emotionally present Dad in a child's life can be equally, if not more devestating as their development can be hindered considerably.

Then if that isn't bad enough, along comes an assessment from the Child Support Agency (CSA) for an outlandish sum of money based on your capacity to work at the highest rate when you were fit and able and on fire, which is possibly a stark contrast to where your financial position is today, or will be in the future if you are unable to recover from the upheaval of a traumatic separation that's often compared to a fate worse than death.

From 2006 CSA powers in Australia have increased to not only garnish your wages, but directly withdraw from bank accounts any amount they deem appropriate, siezing assets of any sort to pay the often highly questionable and unjust debts. As Fathers are assaulted with such draconian measures, one can only feel a sense of dictatorship giving rise to a totalitarian society — not a free Australia — causing fathers to unite and fight for their rights and freedom.

As there are many issues surrounding child support and the effects upon fathers, children and families,

Share your opinion and experiences about the pros and cons of child support,
lifting the veil on a most horrid part of family breakup!

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    By: Ian King from Queensland, Australia on November 4, 2015 @ 10:15 am
    Hi Paul,

    I have signed the petition, and have posted it to my facebook friends to do the same if they agree.

    I think the petition summarizes the unfair practices of the CSA perfectly.

    I hope that this results in something positive.

    Thanks
    Ian
    790. By: Paul from QLD, Aus on November 3, 2015 @ 10:37 pm
    Please join this petition, only a concerted effort will bring about change:
    https://www.change.org/p/stuart-robert-mp-jenny-macklin-mp-catherine-king-mp-katy-gallagher-mp-sen-doug-cameron-inquiry-into-child-support-department-of-human-services?recruiter=68280926&utm_source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink
    By: Tom from QLD, Australia on November 3, 2015 @ 8:02 pm
    please excuse my ignorance, but what does AAT and SSAT mean
    By: Bryon from QLD, australia on November 3, 2015 @ 11:17 am
    Paul, my situation is similar. and yes, last month i stopped paying! as i think my continuance to pay has actually been the CAUSE of my problem. can you give me your advice?

    CSA provisioned my income at $96,806. I changed this within 2 weeks to an estimate of $56k. it was ACCEPTED.

    a year later, lodge tax return. $55k.

    instead of them finalising it at $55-$56k, they put it back up to $96,806 - WHY???? and HOW????? and WHAT the heck do i do now? other than stop paying. (i support my son directly, CS is just my ex wife's pocket money)
    By: Paul from QLD, Australia on November 3, 2015 @ 10:43 am
    I have just won a battle against CSA, reducing my 'adjusted' income from $360k to a figure that I offered, $100k. Interestingly it appears that the AAT (SSAT has been integrated into AAT) is truly bipartisan. My case was run efficiently and I was given the respect that I expected of CSA.
    CSA have then sent new assessments that don't reflect the ruling of AAT so I'm back into it but it's a fight that I'm not willing to give up on. I now refuse to pay child support, I have a DPO against me and a Domestic Violence order (cleverly constructed by the ex-wife to win support for child access restrictions even though I have 50% custody already). QLD, being the nanny state that it is, treats a DVO as if you have killed someone and the accusation is one of 'you are guilty, now prove your innocence'.
    I propose that every parent across the country coordinate a period where no-one pays child support. If no-one pays, the system will grind to a halt and something will have to be done. There are millions of payers of child support. This will create chaos. So, instead of complaining, let's do something positive. As of 1 Jan 2016, stop paying. If your wage is already garnisheed, quite your job...I did. I know it's not that simple for some but drastic times require drastic measures.
    By: steve from nt, australia on November 3, 2015 @ 12:52 am
    its what they do ken
    By: Ken from Nsw, Australia on November 2, 2015 @ 7:21 pm
    I ring CSA, say the ex is receiving a large sum in inheritance, she has $250,000 from settlement. She has two names on bank accounts, and is hiding her money in the children's bank accounts (which we set up for their future years ago). I asked can they check if she really requires as much support for the kids as I am struggling restarting my life after a court appointed financial raping. They say I can asked for a readjustment, but I have to give them all my financial details. Ok I can do that but then they say I get my details forwarded to her she provides what she wants (not the truth necessarily). I explain that if she knows I have asked for the review she will block access and I will have to go to court again. They say yeh that is why some partners don't do readjustments. Last year they took my tax check, without even notifying me. Yet I say she may be defrauding the system but I have to face loosing access to find the truth.
    I have read many comments on this forum and all I see I rational parents wanting a fair go fair access to and for their children, it is no wonder the less educated and not so stable partners crack under this system of inequity and unfair rules
    By: Mia from wa, australia on October 29, 2015 @ 11:07 am
    "CSA has the power to abuse those whom they see fit (all personal in their view)".
    Two cases below whereby CSA has proven to be unfair and run by individual officers with some personal conflict - I believe.
    My case is one whereby the ex-husband left the country willingly and continually lies to CSA on his earnings and providing outdated info - CSA swallows it whole. I have worked very hard to try to make ends meet, but the ex and his family continues to take me to court for one thing or another. These court processes and under payment had financially crippled me. I raised these cases to CSA about my need to increase support but CSA continues to ignore and be gullible to swallow his side of things as he is the dean and professor of an overseas university (I was once told he cannot lie as of his position). I am just a temp - working from contract to another and being the responsible parent.

    In a case of a father I know, he HAD to leave the country to earn a living and was willing to pay based on what he earns but his ex-wife continually push CSA with false information which was in bridge of so many laws (again no justice - every department just palm it off as "not our case - child support" so the legitimacy of that info is moot). CSA claims he earned at least 200k (p.a.) in the five years he worked but has no real evidence other than the ex-wife giving out false info and not substantiated. The father asked CSA to prove themselves; and CSA said they don't need to but the father has to prove otherwise. Yet CSA refuse to accept the information provided and also made it difficult for the father to return to Australia to do his taxes due to put in a departure prohibition order (DPO)imposed. He escalated the matter to SSAT and they took him to court and put a DPO on him. This DPO means he cannot leave Australia once in; logically this boils down to- 1) see your kids and be totally unemployed and owe ex-wife/CSA thousands of dollars; 2) Don't see his kids and have no relationship, still owe CSA/ex-wife and have this SSAT case hanging. Basically this guy is badly ripped of his rights as a father to his kids by CSA & SSAT and also his human rights. The Family Court continues to be in denial after many cases brought up as their hands are tied when it comes to CSA and SSAT who seems to have this "invisible cloak of protection" against any law. Why?
    In summary, CSA (child support australia) is now no longer here to support the children of Australia in an unfortunate circumstance of a divorce. CSA is to ensure children of divorce will continually be deprived of rightful support - financial and emotional from the rightful parent.
    CSA and SSAT now has the ultimate power over human rights in Australia when it comes to a divorce. The vile ex who can find a supporter in CSA is the winner.
    The so-called Government regulations is just a pretense of fair justice in process. The update on regulation to allow the government departments like CSA & SSAT to be protected from all court cases is in place to protect future court cases against the government is now making Australians stripped of all human rights.
    I now wonder about the national anthem that I had once been so glad and proud to sing; is it of relevance?
    I was once a proud Australian; now I am sadly disappointed in reading and knowing how much injustice is upheld against my fellow Australians. Come on Aussies - can't we all do something about this CSA, SSAT and family court?
    By: fluffyduffy01 from Victoria, Australia on October 29, 2015 @ 2:06 pm
    i am a Grandmother my son has always paid his child support, his ex came to his home saw him doing renovations to his home and now thinks that he has loads of money, he only does a bit at a time with our help both in labour and financially, she has gone back to CSS and now they want him to pay exactly what he was paying on the higher wage even though he is on a lower wage now he is being harassed by CSS and it is sending him bonkers trying to deal with a department that only listens to one side of the argument, when the hell did the scales tip so far over that only women get a fair hearing and men are treated like second rate citizens.
    By: Dave from Nt, Australia on October 28, 2015 @ 7:27 am
    After experiencing life with the CSA , and reading all the comments here I am wondering why such a department even exists . Does anyone out there honestly believe we are better off allowing such a department to control people's life's ?? What would happen if they were never there??? Would the sky fall ? Would countless children starve ?? What would be the outcome if this evil department simply vanished from society ??? Maybe there would be a small percentage of hard luck cases out there ( there always is ) but I hate it when government tries to implement policy based on a few extreme cases when 90% of everyone else can work it out them selves . People must also relies that when the marriage fails and the couples go their seperate ways that there are always going to be consequences . I still fail to see why people expect welfare in this situation , I would rather the government just stay right out of it , I reckon most people would end up doing the best they could for there kids in the long run and there would be a much healthier mental state of the population . So there you go!!!! No CSA , no child support welfare from the government , no reason for them to be involved and we all just work it out , maybe that would make some woman a bit more focused on making a marriage work , even if only for the financial surcurity . I would like to hear from anyone who actually believe in CSA .
    By: Rebecca kenyon from Tasmania, australia on October 27, 2015 @ 12:05 pm
    Hi guys,I thought I jump on board as im a hard working mum who has four boys I have three boys living with me and my eldest who lives with my parents.And I pay them child support each fortnight $120.00 and they refuse to let me see him I haven't seen him for 8 years.I did have supervised contact only.Im disscusted how we have to pay and there doesn't have to be contact Please someone change this it breaks my heart everyday because I'm 100% sure all of the people receiving child support would allow us who pay child support be able to see our children before our lives are over :-(
    780. By: suzy from QLD, Australia on October 25, 2015 @ 10:13 am
    Is there a maximum CSA payment amount? My husband is tired of the CSA harassing him with objections after objections. His ex even now is trying to hold over us the fact our house is worth more than we paid, SO WHAT, that's our gain. If we just pay the maximum then they will leave us alone.
    By: carlos from victoria, australia on October 22, 2015 @ 5:35 pm
    Hi. I have been separated now for for 14years. At the time of separation i had a 1 year old son. My ex was a terrible woman. She has not let me see my son during this whole time, except for one time. She was planning to go overseas for a holiday and needed my signature so my son can get a passport. I signed on the basis that she promised access. Onced i signed i never saw him again. All this time paying my share of child support. The government knows the truth why there is high levels of domestic violence but choose to look the other way.
    By: Bryon from QLD, Australia on October 22, 2015 @ 2:27 pm
    I have seen that robin yes but unfortunately there is "exceptions" of course and its all a bit meaningless. Until they link money to access im not celebrating!!
    By: robin from nsw, australia on October 22, 2015 @ 3:11 pm
    has anyone read TheAustralian they are going to change the way csa is payed. As of the 15 July 2015 the govement is looking at ways to have the receiving parent ( mother )show where the money goes if she uses drugs or drinks/smokes she will get a card only so csa payments can only be used on food ect and the parent who does not make payments could face jail. Worth a read
    By: Bryon from QLD, Australia on October 22, 2015 @ 11:54 am
    Can anyone help with the process to sort this out:

    Last year my "provisional" income was stated (by CSA) as $96,806.

    I promptly changed this to $56k. my estimate was accepted so for the year i paid CS based upon an assessment of $56k.

    THEN i lodged my tax return. my taxable income was $55k.

    THEN i received a CSA notice saying $96,806 and i now had a debt of $5k! how can they do this? my estimate was accurate. it was accepted. how can they revert back to their ficticious figure????
    By: robin from nsw, australia on October 20, 2015 @ 8:30 am
    samantha if you owe any money to csa does not mather if the money is owed from 5 yrs ago a csa debt never goes away. It could stay on the csa list for 20 yrs and in the end you still have to pay. Also from what I was told csa can only backdate 3 months of payments that you owe but each case is different
    By: crippled dad from VIC, Australia on October 19, 2015 @ 4:45 pm
    Hi, like many others here my life is crippled due to my greedy ex. My very quick back story is, my ex leaves me marries a rich guy & also gets a 7 figure inheritance (hidden from the ATO) so gives up work therefore my payments go through the roof & have almost driven me to suicide.

    I've seen some comments about setting up as a consultant, does anyone have any good links or guides on how exactly this works? I work in IT so it could be a good option for me.

    Thanks
    By: brett underwood from sa, australia on October 18, 2015 @ 8:36 am
    hi all as a single dad with full time care of my children the mother is a nutter abusing my children for the second time and posted on social media that i abuse her threaten her with guns taught my children to shoot and the list goes on csa will not make her pay me child support but instead send me letters saying i owe money when the children are in my 100% care and the government even let this mentally ill person teach at a primary school where she is a threat to all chidren i just dont get it i am sick to death of hearing feel sorry for the mental case feel sorry for the mother it is about the children not the mother or the money
    By: Samantha Duvall from WA, Australia on October 13, 2015 @ 1:12 pm
    Hi all fellow sufferers of injustice!
    Here is a rather lengthy story of our situation as in regards to dealing with the CSA.
    My husband has two boys that he is paying child support for and has done ever since we met in 2006. They had been separated 18 months when we met & she left him for somebody else.
    We also have a 5 year old daughter. My husband's ex stopped him from seeing his boys not long after we met & we currently have a restraining order against her for malicious text messages & abusive phone calls. So she has 100% maintenance payments. We are struggling to make ends meet.
    The worst of it all is that when my husband went through cancer in 2011 we notified CSA that he was no longer working through ill health & thought that the payments would cease until he was working again. After 6 months of chemo & radiotherapy he started back to work & CSA backdated the child support payments to include when he was off sick. When we tried to appeal we were told that if you are in arrears it still gets backdated. Same if he was unemployed we would still have to pay.
    To top it all off when I did my tax return last year I had CSA deduct half of it saying I owed this for my son from my previous marriage for arrears in 2010. How come they can backdate money you are supposed to owe but if you said "I wasn't working then" they say you have to notify them straight away & you cannot backdate. It's all bollocks & sucks for any man who decides to start a second family. Where is the money to feed & clothe our 5 year old daughter?
    By: Perth from wa, australia on October 13, 2015 @ 2:01 am
    Juliana perhaps you should be advertising you nonsense on a different site...
    770. By: Perth from wa, australia on October 12, 2015 @ 11:49 am
    I work with electricity at heights etc. After receiving calls from the CSA I am left in a mental state that makes me a danger to my work mates, member of the public and myself. I have identified the CSA as a work place hazard. Work Safe have been notified and have advised me to lodge a complaint with the minister. This I have done. Minister Robert. If your CSA thugs contact me at work again you will be held responsible for any deaths or injuries caused by me either by mistake or by me snapping and hurting someone as a result of the mental stress brought about by any such calls. you have been warned. My mental state is getting worse

    These cowardly thugs have been asked to call me afters hours to reduce the risk. They refuse stating they don't work after hours. Too bad.

    I have requested that all communication go through the normal postal system. this isn't favourable for them because it makes it harder for them to threaten you when there is a paper record and there is no "filtering" by the retard on the other end of the phone when she enters one sided notes of the conversation on her computer.


    By: gary from Queensland, Australia on October 8, 2015 @ 8:57 pm
    Need help with what to do with my ex trying to keep me from my lil girl from me. What can i do who can i talk to
    By: Tony from Qld, Australia on October 8, 2015 @ 6:35 pm
    Csa did a Coa for extra medical expenses. I have private health care cover that includes child. They halved the extra cost between us minus all rebates now ex saying I have to give her all of rebate? Please advise!
    By: scott from NSW, Australia on September 28, 2015 @ 6:18 pm
    I have been paying child maintenance each week now for 5yrs on a private agreement. I recently sent a email requesting 50% of my child to my ex partner and the following week receive a ph call from child support explaining that my ex had contacted them and are now acting on her behalf. I pay my maintenance every week + clothe and im currently paying for a massive dentist bill on my own because my ex feels my childs teeth are not a priority. Csa tell me they dont care about the extra cost &are only interested in monthly payments and my employers details . I cannot understand how these morons work out there stuff but the male in this situation has no choices or legal grounds and is treated apallingly.
    By: lyndon from qld, aus on September 26, 2015 @ 1:42 pm
    As a payer of Child support with 50/50 care and having to deal with the clowns at Csa , I would like to comment about all the Domestic violence we here about lately and would like other peoples opinions about whats going on ? . I think the Goverment throwing money at the problem wont fix it. They need to take a look at why these men are getting pushed to the limit ( as bet many of us on this have been) losing your family unit and then having a large part of your income taken away . There has not been one comment about the Child support Agencys involment in these peoples live but I can bet they are .
    By: Jan from WA, Australia on September 26, 2015 @ 12:40 am
    Hi guys
    In my situation my ex got the luxury of having 2 cash cows
    One is me after she divorce me 4years back and the other from the bloke he divorced last year summing up to 2 kids from me and 1 kid from him
    I'm so angry about CSA because even you don't have any income they still charge you child support and they will tell you that is dept to the government that need to be payed back when you get a job again
    While I was struggling to pay bills and going through my own family as I also remarried and have 1 child not even having any savings left for my own me ex have a luxury life having 2 people paying her child support and going shopping for clothes and bags and some shit for her own
    I think the government should use their brains to figure out what if us fathers desides not to work anymore because of the fact that it's better to suck up on Centrelink money than to work hard and pay more child support
    For us fathers it's really unfair and this government is stupid
    If you think about it if no one works in the family and you pay rent and you have children we can actually have more money and time for ourselves and just bludger on Centrelink
    This is the reality here in Australia a fucked up one!!!
    Thanks guys
    By: john rose from w.a, australia on September 23, 2015 @ 12:48 pm
    my sons are 28, and 17 no i cannot lend money, i was told by mp for csa and centerlink they cannot do this but csa recons they can , this will end uo in court, which i will not go ,,,anxity , plus i dont want to see her ever again , i have lost all respect for the courts , they dont do nothing for you , she lies thru her teeth and they beliieve everything she says , bloody 16 years of hell with this woman never again
    By: Neil from NSW, Australia on September 23, 2015 @ 12:49 pm
    Thanks, Real CS Info and Oscar for your comments. I think I forgot to mention in my earlier post that my ex-wife is an Australian citizen too and my child was born in Australia. They both have permanent visas for India that will allow them to stay over there indefinitely. She played a very smart move and only moved out of the country when she started getting child support payment. India is not a Hague signatory country so I can't seek help from DFAT to get my son back to Australia. And, because India is a reciprocating country, I'll have to keep paying child support. I've already contacted several departments (DFAT, ISS, Immigration etc) and lawyers in Australia and India, but couldn't get much help. Does anyone know if I can get the child support payment stopped until I get the child custody sorted? Or is there any other way out that I haven't been able to think about? Thanks in advance for any suggestion/comment.
    By: Bruce from Qld, Australia on September 23, 2015 @ 2:28 pm
    How old are your kids john? Can you borrow the money from family and pay them back with your super after the kids turn 18 & CS stops?
    By: john rose from w.a, australia on September 23, 2015 @ 12:05 pm
    i have been divorced from my x for 16 years. thru the courts everything was 50/50 even my super, now i cannot work thru a total disability , i have taken my super out to make it easy for me so i would not loose my house, now child support want 13,000 , is this right, i was told they cannot do this,
    760. By: Real CS info from qld, Australia on September 23, 2015 @ 1:32 pm
    Neil,

    You can ask a court where pending legal action may impact the amount due for a stay order.

    There are two types one that stops csa giving money and the other one that stops collecting. The debt still accrues however

    By: Mike from WA, Aust on September 23, 2015 @ 11:04 am
    John
    My ex has voluntarily left her last 6 jobs and my payments escalate as a result. All my COA's were declined. I feel your frustration mate. My wife and I planned a baby and bought a house and now have been blindsided with a near double in CS payments due to ex's decision to leave her current job and start a business. We are now financially on the ropes. I sat down to object, but everytime I read the letters and lies,and knowing the bias of the case officers, my stress levels go through the roof. My wife and I decided to leave it and get on with ours lives. We are happy, and we know that she is still bitter and angry. A lot of people here will disagree with my thinking, but until legislation changes, those of us who are doing the right thing will always get shafted. The burning feeling in my guts when I think about this is subsiding as time goes on, and I want to be happy and content around my wife and kids, not bitter and grumpy.
    I have 2 boys, one is 14 eldest son turns 18 next month, but payments only drop from 430 pfn to 360pfn...work that one out!
    Just look after your health and your kids mate.
    If you have the time and patience to object do so, but as Real CSA points out, you will be wasting your time.
    My accountant advised me years ago to get my car on a novated lease. It lowered my tax but ex alerted CSA and they ended up taking it from my Gross pay anyway and it now doesnt count. You have to start your own business and fudge the figures to lower payments...but that wouldnt be responsible parenting would it...Its a pity CSA dont see it that way.
    Good luck
    By: Neil from NSW, Australia on September 23, 2015 @ 12:49 pm
    Thanks, Real CS Info and Oscar for your comments. I think I forgot to mention in my earlier post that my ex-wife is an Australian citizen too and my child was born in Australia. They both have permanent visas for India that will allow them to stay over there indefinitely. She played a very smart move and only moved out of the country when she started getting child support payment. India is not a Hague signatory country so I can't seek help from DFAT to get my son back to Australia. And, because India is a reciprocating country, I'll have to keep paying child support. I've already contacted several departments (DFAT, ISS, Immigration etc) and lawyers in Australia and India, but couldn't get much help. Does anyone know if I can get the child support payment stopped until I get the child custody sorted? Or is there any other way out that I haven't been able to think about? Thanks in advance for any suggestion/comment.
    By: Real CS info from qld, Australia on September 23, 2015 @ 11:33 am
    India is a reciprocating jurisdiction. If the entitlement was not accurate CSA international would have ended it. The child must be a resident on the day the application was made. Or ordinarily a resident. So she can continue to collect t he child support. The haig convention is best approach as you may be entitled to apply for stay order while pursuing custody
    By: Oscar from SA, Australia on September 23, 2015 @ 9:25 am
    Neil - if your ex is living in a new country and is a citizen of that country, she will now be under their laws, and as such, the Australian laws may not apply (unless there is a cross-vesting agreement).

    Seek some advice. I know seeing your child is most important, however, if you don't have to be paying maintenance then you should stop it as soon as you can. Let her pursue it from India.

    I would be surprised if she is able to apply to the CSA for support when she is a citizen and resident of another country...
    By: John from NSW, Australia on September 23, 2015 @ 10:42 am
    Hello Bruce and Paul.
    I appreciate both of your comments.
    I have submitted a new letter today to the CSA rebutting the claims made by the other party.
    I will let you know how it turns out. In the mean time I will watch this page with interest.
    There are many things you can call the CSA - however, helpful and equality between the sexes when it come to the decisions they make is not one of
    them.
    Thanks again for your kind advise and take the time to respond.
    Regards
    John
    By: paul from Q, australia on September 15, 2015 @ 9:18 pm
    The option that may help is to have her living costs reassessed. She has to declare that she has only a share of living expenses as opposed to her having to maintain a house by herself.
    Also, she made the choice to leave work to have a baby, apply on that basis, they can't refused your applications. Pester the shut out of them then go to the AAT if they continue to refuse your applications. Don't let these Nazis push you around , they really are disgusting in their actions and attitudes.
    By: bruce from QLD, australia on September 22, 2015 @ 5:07 pm
    Hi John, sorry to hear about your situation. Any accountant can help you with that. Really the only way to adjust your income is with a business. once upon a time a rental property was a good way but CSA took care of that with "add backs" is there any way you can be a consultant ? its worth asking the question. otherwise, do you have a new lady friend who owns a business, wants to go into business etc .....? just think of a way to get that income through a fee based service. heaps of people do it. good luck mate
    By: John from NSW, Australia on September 22, 2015 @ 4:25 pm
    Hello All,
    It was a great relief to see there are other fathers in similar situations to mine and see that I am not the only one who is frustrated with the poor and one sided assessments of the CSA.

    Just by way of background - My ex-wife has had a baby with her new partner and as a result she has taken time off work. I am now forced to increase the payments because a) she has a new baby and b) she wants to take time off work and therefore reducing her income.

    Whilst I don't mind paying my share I don't see why my payment has to increase because of decisions made by her.

    I work for a government body and as a consequence I cant do anything about my salary and I am forced to pay more than what I can currently afford. I have a bit in savings, however this will eventually expire.

    I have submitted a request for review and hat seems to be falling on deaf ears.

    My question, does anyone know of a good accountant to enable me to reduce my "adjusted taxable income" - as you know the income the CSA uses to make their assessments is based on a "adjusted taxable income" - not the figure the Tax Dept claims is your taxable income. Therefore I am after an accountant who can identify a way to reduce the adjusted taxable income amount. Again I am happy to pay what was considered the same amount before. But, for the life of me I cant see why I have to pay more as a result of her decision.

    By finding legal ways to reduce your "adjusted taxable income" This then allows me to bring the amount I have to pay to a reasonable level as opposed to the over inflated level I have to pay now.

    Thanks for your time and good luck to everyone.

    John
    By: Bruce from QLD, australia on September 21, 2015 @ 12:10 pm
    first of all, did you consent to the departure? and what country was your child born in? if australia, go and get a lawyer ASAP. the family court is extremely unlikely to ever allow the mother to relocate with your child. i think there has only ever been 3 precedents set in that regard. assuming you didnt consent, do you understand the seriousness of what she's done?!
    750. By: neil from NSW, Australia on September 19, 2015 @ 8:00 pm
    My ex-wife has fled the country with our son (to India). There is a final order from Australian court in place that allows my son to stay with me for 3 nights a fortnight. I still have to pay full child support payment. I rang the CSA and then sent a few e-mails too, but they won't listen and told me they were not interested. My ex-wife has the child and as my child is not spending any time with me, I'll have to keep paying the full amount.
    I have no problem paying the child support if he is in Australia and I am able to spend time with him.
    Is there any way I can stop/reduce paying child support payment? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
    By: John from NT, Australia on September 18, 2015 @ 12:25 pm
    Real CSA

    Thanks for the advice. Yes I sought legal advice the other day. Your first sentence sums it up.
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    She can object the estimate if she has grounds for it being incorrect. So if you are genuinely on a pension for tax purposes than that is that.
    >>>
    That as you say is that. I have reached preservation age and my income has gone from full time wage to a self funded pension. End of story.

    Yes CofA reason 8 special circumstances (earning capacity) comes into play if I am still working - another issue altogether.

    Thank you.


    By: Real CS info from qld, Australia on September 17, 2015 @ 9:23 pm
    Ky et al

    Yes payments continue when you have no contact. There is no law allowing csa to do otherwise
    By: Real CS info from qld, Australia on September 17, 2015 @ 9:05 pm
    John,

    She can object the estimate if she has grounds for it being incorrect. So if you are genuinely on a pension for tax purposes than that is that.

    If she thinks you can draw more than that is CoA...an estimate and CoA are very different.

    By: Paul from Qld, Aust on September 16, 2015 @ 7:39 pm
    Kris, I get your frustration mate and I'm not proposing that we all go out and start litigating against solicitors.
    All we can do is continue to get this out there in the public eye. Last week is proof that the media will blast a subject if it gets enough interest. There's a tipping point.
    Get enough people talking and eventually we'll get something done. At the moment there simply isn't enough 'noise' because we feel guilty about whingeing about it. Blast every public media avenue that you have mate, every bit counts.
    CSA have a lot to answer and I certainly won't rest until there is a very public enquiry. In the mean-time mate, there are lots of help-lines, you're not alone mate.
    By: John from NT, Australia on September 15, 2015 @ 1:48 pm
    To Real CS info etal.

    Well today I just submitted a new "Estimate" for 15/16 based on my pension (self funded) for the remainder of the year. I could have done this 2 years ago but the timing didn't suit me.

    I understand that the X can lodge a objection which is fine. Basically I am on a pension having reached preservation age.

    So this is a major milestone and if she lodges an objection then I may have to call on your expertise Real CSA in the future via this site.

    Keep up the good work RealCSA and thank you. After you respond, I will turn off notifications for the time being.

    Regards

    John (NT)
    By: Kris from Nsw, Australia on September 15, 2015 @ 11:58 am
    Hi to all paying parents
    CSA/family law -multi billion dollar racket,destroying families and creating the new"stolen generation" and "domestic violence".
    Csa/family law - both created by the legistlitive council/assembly .
    Animals get treated better than humans in this system.
    And as someone said here about reporting the solicitor virmin for misconduct..
    Yeah I'll do that when I'm kicked out of a home lost my kids, forced to pay child support without orders in place yet, looking for a home , harassed by police even tough you never been in trubble before , fighting your own solicitor ,cause he is doing nothing and diverting things all the time, and let me add you might be a little depressed at this stage , you got no money , can't see your kids cause of a bogus avo and yeah I'll start proceedings against my solicitor ,no problem. It will never change , for those starting their child support I would strongly recommend leaving the country and start a new life somewhere, it's painfull I know. But unless you meet a very understanding woman , it will rip your new relationship and you apart . Hence why most 2nd marriages don't last as well . And remember it will NEVER change here. Not being negative , don't belive the trolls even here on this forum that it's changing. It is actually getting worse. Google 21 fathers and see for yourself . Over 2500++ people commit suicide each year. Advance australia fkn fair!
    By: Paul from QLD, Australia on September 14, 2015 @ 12:36 pm
    Kris, thanks for the input. I'm taking a special interest in the ratio of male suicide to violence against women. Depression and violent behaviour are essentially two different ways to deal with the same problem, they both indicate mental distress. Some men become violent, others withdraw. The end result of either can be murder, suicide and anything in between. If you have real data on that number I'd like to see it (paul.casley@bigpond.com).
    I was in court today for a DV breach, I had the hide to speak to my wife in court and then give her lawyer a spray. Apparently lawyers should be beyond reproach. Why is it then that they are permitted to recommend DV proceedings to assist their parenting case?
    Flow on the effects of CSA intervention when your children have been taken away, you no longer have a home, your employer is filtering money to CSA so that your ex-partner can live the life of Reilly and ironically give all of your hard earned to the spittle licking cockroach lawyers, WHO STARTED THE WHOLE PROCESS IN THE FIRST PLACE!
    I recommend pointing your aggression toward lawyers first. They are the real problem. Let's have a 'Public Outing' of all inappropriate actions by lawyers.
    I had a lawyer that withdrew as my representative so that she could put a contract on my house, that was being liquidated. Gee, conflict of interest or downright unethical...let me think?
    By: Ky from Nsw, Australia on September 14, 2015 @ 7:37 pm
    My ex has allianated my children from me and wants sole custody of them. If he succeeds in court will I still have to pay child support?
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