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Child Support — What does it all mean?
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Who wants to be dictated to by the State on how you support your children — what, how and when?

Whilst many views float around arguing for and against child support, most decent fathers and parents would argue the issue is not whether or not they wish to support their children, but rather the often unfair conditions imposed upon them.

Simply, it's an attack on the nature of a father's freedom and how he best wishes to raise and support his children in the many different ways a responsible father can, which are often more effective and benefical to a child than any 'slap-bang' instrument of government and statism can ever be.

For a father going through separation/divorce, experiencing the loss of family and children, horrendous false allegations, litigation, uncertainty of where your children are and how they are doing, often causes ill health, work and life instability in so many ways. Also, the effects from not having a fully functioning and emotionally present Dad in a child's life can be equally, if not more devestating as their development can be hindered considerably.

Then if that isn't bad enough, along comes an assessment from the Child Support Agency (CSA) for an outlandish sum of money based on your capacity to work at the highest rate when you were fit and able and on fire, which is possibly a stark contrast to where your financial position is today, or will be in the future if you are unable to recover from the upheaval of a traumatic separation that's often compared to a fate worse than death.

From 2006 CSA powers in Australia have increased to not only garnish your wages, but directly withdraw from bank accounts any amount they deem appropriate, siezing assets of any sort to pay the often highly questionable and unjust debts. As Fathers are assaulted with such draconian measures, one can only feel a sense of dictatorship giving rise to a totalitarian society — not a free Australia — causing fathers to unite and fight for their rights and freedom.

As there are many issues surrounding child support and the effects upon fathers, children and families,

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lifting the veil on a most horrid part of family breakup!

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    By: Lander from Qld, Australia on January 9, 2016 @ 9:26 am
    Junals, contact the ombudsman asap. They cannot take money from your account unless you are a chronic defaulter and you have not made a payment arrangement. Open a new bank account and do not provide your tax file number for any future savings.
    By: Gordon from Qld, Australia on January 8, 2016 @ 2:41 pm
    Hi
    May be some one can help me get my head around this.
    I came to Australia on a working visa, have payed CSA for my son who, is not an Australia and has never set foot in Australia.as has my EX, she receives payments from me via the central international unit. I questioned the legitimacy of my assessment as I originally thought they were collecting on behalf of the UK CSA on a reciprocal agreement however was told that this is no reciprocating but an Australian based assessment.
    In April last year I received a letter from the CSA UK informing me that from that date I had no longer a maintenance agreement with them. I contacted them and was informed that this is correct and they could not answer in regards the Australian assessment. I duelly contacted the Australian team and forwarded them all the info and to conclude they said it had no reference to their assessment..
    Go figure has any one else came across this farce of a system that appears to be constructed and utilised over morning tea sorry afternoon tea when you cannot get a hold of a case worker when you need them.
    Help please
    By: Junals from VIC, Australia on January 8, 2016 @ 10:28 pm
    The CSA really shut my world down. They garnished all my money in my bank account which is allocated for my wife c-section delivery in Philippines and for my 1 year old son cataract removal surgery. I don't have time to save because my wife about to deliver anytime this month. I am paying my cs obligation weekly and everything just happen like this. Dont know where to complain and what to do with this.
    By: Leigh from QLD , Australia on January 8, 2016 @ 1:00 pm
    After paying off a huge debt that I paid off in June last year and continued to pay until November last year ( where have those payments gone ?) I have now been informed by CSA THAT I AM NOW IN DEBT AGain ???? And I will be paying $260 per week I am now in the situation where I could lose my house and my current wife and our 2 daughters will be homeless and living in poverty while my ex wife travels overseas and has the best of everything how is this fair? We are struggling to survive as it is with only my wage to cover our expenses I will be paying my ex over $10000 a year for 2 children I'm at my wits end with child support and the way they rob me and my family of a decent life
    By: robin from nsw, australia on January 8, 2016 @ 10:57 am
    dom
    make sure you have all consent orders up to date and they state a no move clause in them if you dont have the orders go get them NOW without the consent orders she can move and then you will have to fight to make your x move back.Courts are ruling in the fathers side and 90% of the time they will make her stay. i tryed to move states with the kids my x said no court went in his favour
    By: Oscar from SA, Australia on January 7, 2016 @ 10:27 pm
    Dom - you say you have 2 young boys, by which i guess they are not teenagers.

    you also say you pay over $1,600 / month and you have them 35% of the time.

    something is wrong with the CSA calculation or you must earn a sh1t load of money and she earns nothing ... so if you don't earn a shit load - then you need to have those numbers checked. you can work it out by pulling up the "Costs of Children" table.

    Also, if she is earning next to nothing, you need to ask the Courts to consider things like how she can afford to move in the first place, why she'd move away from her, and the children's support network (being you), and
    By: me from NT, OZZ on January 7, 2016 @ 9:57 pm
    Dom
    You do not need a lawyer(in my view) file a form 2 and you ex will have to file a response, in your form 2 seek an order that your ex be restrained from relocating pending subject to final orders, i take it that your kids are young and want to spend time with you. Contact CSA that you dispute. Its a fucked up ride i did it for 9yrs...i should have walked away...but as a father you will fight that is what we do ,,,some of us walk away some kill themselves and some end up alcoholics or drug addicts,,,or in jail...mate its a painful journey for any out come, me well i am hitting the roads of our great land good luck dom

    By: dom from vic, australia on January 7, 2016 @ 10:42 pm
    My ex, is fighting hard in court to relocate from central vic to the northern NSW coast with my two young boys. We met in vic, got married here, had kids here and suddenly after separation, she wants to up and leave. what are the chances of this happening? the legal process is extremely nasty and obviously expensive; however, i have no choice but to fight to keep my children nearby so i can enjoy raising them. Add to this she gets 100% CS over $1600/month, although i have the kids 5 nights a fortnight and 50% of all school holidays. to say the system is tough is an understatement.
    970. By: Matt from SA, Australia on January 7, 2016 @ 3:42 pm
    The best help I have had recommended was from childsupportconsulting.com.au who used to work for CSA and know their stuff. Might be worth a try perhaps?
    By: Tkjc from Nsw, Australia on January 6, 2016 @ 1:11 pm
    Anyone with a DPO issued from March 2015 that is signed by Stewart Brazendale. Should contact a solicitor he ceased in his employment in February 2015 and is now in a position that does not have authority to sign a DPO they just copy and paste his signature. Write to them and ask for the full submission made to the delegate under the foi act you are entitled to have this if they have put a DPO on you it is hear where you will see the lies and bullshit the junior officer has put together to make you look like a dead beat dad once you obtain all the info along with the Stuart Brazendale thing you have what is malfeasance in public office and also torture the junior officer that made the DPO submission could be sentenced to 20 years Gaol if found guilty just one of these convictions would stop the rest of them thinking that they are invincible stand up to these fucksticks they force thousands into depression and hundreds to suicide without even thinking twice it is time to uncover Thiet bullshit and expose them for the rats they are don't lay down stand up and fight question them on everything and take any discrepecies to the top get your federal member involved and even the minister for human services don't just complain on here stand up and be heard
    By: pete from NT, NT on January 6, 2016 @ 8:40 am
    Liz Lander &ky.have given you/us all some great info. I could not have sai it any better, for those on the dpo have a look at the june 2009 ombudsman review of the CSA conduct on dpo.it is my intention to apply for an MRO misconduct restrain order against the name of the person on my dpo,they have clearly departed from their own guidelines in that i have been paying child support and those arrears..the csa represetaive will have to respond to my alergations that he/she has acted emotively and outside of guidelines/procedure and i will quote Chief Judge Latham 1942 'fake laws and abuse of power'
    By: Lander from Qld, Australia on January 6, 2016 @ 8:25 am
    Elizabeth, the minimum is $360 per YEAR. Not $300 per month. Never ever pay your husbands liability otherwise you set a precedent. Simply "offer" the children financial support and leave it at that.

    Csa have no jurisdiction whatsoever regarding a forced sale of asset that is not 100% owned by the payer. Their role is not to serve the public, it is to scare the bejesus out of us. Dont buy into it. Stop paying your husbands liability
    Immediately. The debt can be wiped. Mine was! I was aware that my provisional income was $112k orsome crazy number and i lodged all my tax returns LATE for the past 5 years with an average income of $40-$50k and all my debt was wiped. Yee ha!
    By: Ky from Nsw, Aust on January 6, 2016 @ 7:15 am
    Liz, place an objection based on your ex capacity to earn. It's rule 8 I think. Get dr certificates saying your ex can't wot any more than this. Then if CSA deny this take it all the way up the ladder. Don't be nice about it, they don't care less and as a paying parent usually CSA treat you like shit. There is no 'trying to do the right thing' you need to look at it from a very business like perspective, what are your rights, what does the legislation say and what reason have CSA given you for their interpretation of the legislation. They get it wrong all the time, ask for everything in writing and don't accept what they say before you know from another source that it's correct. Look up 'guide to social policy law- child support guide. It's the legislation and clearly outlines the rules, know this well. Don't accept their crap, they will give you a different story and threaten you every time but just take it further and further. The more cases of injustice that flood the higher ranks in relation to CSA the more likely some changes will be made for everyone.
    By: Pete from wa, ozz on January 6, 2016 @ 1:06 am
    Liz, that's not correct. They the CSA are in error. Their is a fixed amount or if you are on benefits its less, not sure the pwr to sell your home but they do not care. Its easy that guys kill themselves less paperwork
    By: elizabeth from QLD, Australia on January 5, 2016 @ 10:55 pm
    My husband broke his back in 2 places over 4 years ago and has not been able to work full time since yet because his ex wife (divorced for over a decade now) decides to ring CSA on occasion and suggest that he is earning whatever figure she pulls out of the hat, my husband now has an accrued debt with CSA of over $12000 when every single cent he has earn he has declared and has also put tax returns in every year. How is it that CSA can just choose what amount they will charge him and it be allowed on someone else's say so with no evidence? CSA tell us that even if he weren't earning any money at all there is still a minimum required of about $300 per month. He's not entitled to any government payments because I earn too much. I pay the $300 per month and have done for a couple of years and that's fine but now they want to sell the house to get the arrears which I pay the repayments on also. Does anyone know if they are legally allowed to force the sale of our home if it's in both of our names? It's not like we're not wanting to pay the debt but it wasn't even accrued fairly or accurately and don't have that sort of money to pay straight up like they insist it should be.
    By: Ian Thompson from Victoria, Australia on January 5, 2016 @ 1:41 pm
    I have been having a tug of war with CSA and disputing the amounts they are asking and their late penalties but now they have informed me they will be approaching my employer and taking around 20% of my gross income which will leave me unable to pay my rent and meet other financial commitments. Is there anything I can do here?
    By: scott from New South Wales, Australia on January 5, 2016 @ 12:44 pm
    Hi Thanks Lander I will look into it asap,
    Cheers thanks, Scott
    By: Ky from Nsw, Aust on January 5, 2016 @ 11:18 am
    Hi, my ex husband has hidden his income and told CSA he earns zero. He took my kids and I have no access to them making my Cs payment above $800 a fortnight. I can no longer afford legal representation because of this so in essence I'll most likely lose in court now too. Has anyone represented themselves in family court who can offer any hints or tips and the type of pitfalls I'm going to face while representing myself?
    960. By: Mum of 2 from Victoria, Australia on January 5, 2016 @ 10:17 am
    Wow i have been reading some of the stuff and am disgusted on how it seems the mum is using the child as a pawn in their game of power and money!!
    I feel For every single 1 of u.
    My children have been adopted by my fiancé.
    THeir father did no pay child support EVER and CSA never chased him about it he also hid his Earnings and they didnt even look into it.
    Seems as tho they pic and choose. I guess the bigger of a sob story the recieving parent gives the more they wanna help.
    My ex still has outstanding debt from before the kids were legally adopted and they still dnt chase it.
    He never wanted to see the kids and was happy to sign his rights away to them.
    We asked the kids if they wanted the man who raised them (my fiancé) to be there dad and they said we already thought he was cos our dad has never been there.
    Some women/men are disgusting at the fact they keep children from loving parents 😢 good luck to everyone
    By: Lander from Qld, Australia on January 5, 2016 @ 8:55 am
    Scott - she cannot move states unless you approve, yes you could force her to return to nsw and disrupt her life terribly, but this is just your hand to play. You now hold all the aces- you can now "approve" her to stay put conditionally..... Or else.... Return! Get some legal advice asap mate
    By: scott from nsw, Australia on January 5, 2016 @ 9:40 am
    My ex has moved the kids over to WA and i am here in nsw still paying child support. with my income there is noway i can afford to go over there to see them ( she has not given me address even if i could get over there ) also now there is no change of me getting some time with them, is there anything i can do
    By: Lander from Qld, Australia on January 5, 2016 @ 8:37 am
    Byron if you havent received it in writing then it is unlikely to exist. They need to be certain they have ticked all proceedural boxes before issuing the dpo. You could ring them back and ask - on what date was it issued? Who is the issuing officer and what address did you send me the notification?

    Failing that - Contact the ombudsman they can act quickly to remedy.
    By: Byron from Vic, Au on January 4, 2016 @ 10:50 pm
    CSA have told me verbally that they have put a DPO on me, but I have not received any written communication. How can I find out if there is actually a DPO on me? Thanks
    By: Robert from WA, Australia on January 4, 2016 @ 12:07 pm
    I have a bunch of questions some of you might be able to help with?

    I just spoke to the CSA and the lady (always a lady ain't it?) said that if I wanted to change career and reduce my hours so that I could study, and my ex objected to the change of assessment, I would have to argue that the career change was in the best interests of my child in the longer term. However, she said that it was likely that I would have to keep paying my current amount (more than $900 a fortnight). However, this is just some lady's say so. I asked her if there was any chance of getting something like the ATO's private rulings and I discovered there is not. I wrote to my MP about this because it seems you have no certainty if you want to change your life. You just have to throw caution to the wind, hope for the best, and plan for the worst. Has anyone attempted a career change while paying CSA?

    Also, I have booked some long service leave at half pay but I haven't told CSA yet. It doesn't start till February. The same thing applies. If she lodges an objection, I'm probably stuffed. Anyone with experience of that? I was thinking that perhaps I should see a doctor and get a stress note or something before applying for a change of assessment.

    Finally, my ex went part time 2 days a week just before our son was born. However, he attends day care 3 days a week and he and my ex lives with her parents. If she wanted to object on a capacity to earn basis, could I do the same and expect a favourable result? Anyone had any experience with that?
    By: Been there from qld, australia on January 4, 2016 @ 10:19 am
    Deb you can mail your son a form (I think it is called Representative authority?) you can print it off and ask him to fill in nominating you as a representative. he can then post it to you/them and after 10 or so days you will be authorised to speak on his behalf. in saying that, I would not talk to them. instead have him send a letter with this form explaining that he is currently incarcerated until such time. all the best!
    By: Deb Lewis from S A, Australia on January 4, 2016 @ 10:32 am
    Hi been there,Thank you. That's good to know, ha I won't pay a cent. Thanks heaps,also how can I get them to talk to me without him,
    By: Oscar from SA, Australia on January 4, 2016 @ 8:03 am
    Sairey - if you like I will give you a call to discuss some options that might work for you (give me your email address, then I will contact you for a phone number - keeps it semi-private then)
    By: Been there from Qld, Australia on January 4, 2016 @ 9:34 am
    He deb, been there, done that.

    Upon release he will get all sorts of paperwork - you send this to csa and they credit the amount charged for the time of incarceration but ONLY if he hasnt paid ie, the amount is outstanding. Dont pay it for him. How long til his release? Im sure you can notify them earlier but they wont do anything til they get the paperwork.
    950. By: Deb Lewis from S A, Australia on January 4, 2016 @ 9:33 am
    Also they audit you,Why can't we ask for them to be audited?
    By: Deb Lewis from S A, Australia on January 4, 2016 @ 9:19 am
    Help can someone answer this.My Son is jail NOT EARING MONEY. but CSA are still making him pay,running up huge debt.
    Q.1 How can they do this?

    Q.2 Is they anything that can be done?
    By: Ky from Nsw, Australia on January 4, 2016 @ 7:06 am
    Hi, I pay my ex over $800 a fortnight for 2 kids he took and won't allow me to see. He claims a zero income despite working everyday and CSA just accept his claim without any evidence at all. The court don't help their of the opinion that at 13 and 15 the kids make their own choice. It doesn't seem to matter that the ex told the kids the most awful things about their mum to make them hate me and he basically told them they can make all their own decisions so in a nutshell they do whatever they please. No one cares, he still abuses me via SMS messages and pretends he is the best parent on this earth because his kids 'choose' him not their mum. Very sad and the root of all this just before he threw me out he had already found out how much 'free' cs money I'd be forced to pay to him, he destroyed my kids relationship with me all for collection of a free wages through CSA. He officially claimed 2 days after chucking me out. The system has destroyed my children not helped them. But hey this is CSA they are a law unto themselves. Usually it's the paying parent who gets discriminated against with this system. And quite frankly if I earn more why should he get it? I can barely feed myself most weeks whilst he lives rent and mortgage free, working and hiding his income, sucking off the income of his partner (he had an affair too), and living off a wage donated by me. He took everything we owned so I am starting again, renting paying the bills he ran up in my name, credit cards efc but CSA don't take any of this into account, the system needs to look into the whole situation what each person owns, has to pay to live etc, if he has no mortgage or rent, no bills and his household is also supported by income from his partner this should be considered in an equation about disparity not just a black and white numerical formula. Welcome to the biggest injustice system this country ever produced!
    By: Sairey Delmonte from Victoria, Australia on January 4, 2016 @ 5:50 am
    They Can't get a hold of him apparently is all im told and that his employer hasn't responded.
    I have had 7 different case managers and always get told the same crap over and over..
    I don't care about outstanding amounts i just want help when it comes to education fees etc.. i have friends(payee) who are being screwed over by CSA and i can't even get them to do a job properly. And wow over $400 a fortnight 😯 what the hell thats a obscene amount of money for anyone let alone for child support.
    Thats horrible hopefully u can get them to tell u where that sort of money is used.. thats ridiculous, that would pay for a child 100% of all needs 😕
    By: Kylie from NSW, Australia on January 4, 2016 @ 5:03 am
    Sairey
    This is what i dont understand.
    CSA has taken over half my pay before i get paid. So how can they not take wages from your ex.? They expect me to pay 480 a fortnight. Which i find way to much. But if i dont pay it they take it out of my wages.
    By: Sairey Delmonte from Victoria, Australia on January 4, 2016 @ 2:35 am
    To All paying parents.. what do u class as to much to pay for a child..
    My ex left and wants nothing to do with his child because he has a "new family" lady with 1 child, she and he both work fulltime, she only has every 2nd weekend with child.. her choice, i work part time and am not re partnered our daughter goes to kinder next year... i pay $230 a week just in rent no including bills etc.. he hasn't paid child support ever and i am getting screwed around by CSA in trying to collect... i dnt want the massive 4 year outstanding bill just want him to start paying especially now she has education cost coming up.. i know this probably isnt the right place to ask but it looks like most of u have been dealing with them for a while... he is only suppose to pay $245 a month which isnt very much really.. i spend that in 10 days on her food and basic needs.. can anyone help me
    By: Oscar from SA, Australia on January 3, 2016 @ 10:18 am
    Tired - i will give you a call and have a chat. what is your number
    By: Tired from WA, Aust on January 3, 2016 @ 8:59 am
    Hi Oscar
    I am about to hear from the AAT to set up a hearing. Did you go in person or do it over the phone. Any advice how to go about the process. I have just handed in Finance Expenture dec.
    By: lyndon from qld, aus on January 3, 2016 @ 8:52 am
    Bob you are not a deadbeat dad I agree its a term thrown around way to much . I was called a dead beat dad because my ex wanted a box of beer( which I didnt give her) for paying $120 of school fees . This was the only time in 9 years she paid them for the three children I have shared care of , which she also recieves CS for ? still trying to work that one out. Did I call her a dead beat mum for the $2800 for not paying the rest of school books , uniforms , laptops and the list goes on , which I payed for. Maybe Mate I should have
    By: all good from NT, ozz on January 2, 2016 @ 8:02 pm
    Hey Bob,,mate you are not a DB dad,,,that term is a government word distributed by the media. We all understand.bob do not leave work, your life is stressful so act accordingly. There are some good courses that you can do while on benefits..do what you have to do ,but bob,,,do not call yourself or think you are a db dad.take care
    940. By: BOB from NSW, Australia on January 2, 2016 @ 5:35 pm
    Happy New Year - except im not so happy!

    My tax return was stolen by CSA and 33% my last pay of the year was garnished.

    I recieved a letter from CSA on 31-12-15 telling me what they demand in new year Happy New Year

    I struggled to pay rego, rent and food, in other words I am slowing going under water in a slow and painful way (going broke going to work).
    2-01-16 Woke up this morning and have decided to be a deadbeat dad. Going give up work and move north live a tent and hunt and fish for food and enjoy some freedom.

    Wish all of you people paying CSA the best of luck. Gone Fishing forever...



    By: Oscar from SA, Australia on December 31, 2015 @ 7:35 pm
    so i had my hearing with the AAT the other day. Found it quite a bizarre process, but we will see what the decision brings. I am a paying parent on a very good income. Ex is owner/director of a new (2 year old) real estate business who declared income at $29K - stating she took no commissions or bonuses.

    There were a lot of sales for the business which i tracked on the internet, so this made for interesting conversation to the Tribunal Member.

    She reduces her income stating that she reinvests any commissions that she would normally earn to grow the business and keep it operating. So i ran the argument, on an analogy, that if i voluntarily reduce my income (super sacrifice, novate lease, etc etc) the CSA writes those amounts back in because I am "causing detriment to the children" by not having available all those monies that should be available.

    it will be interesting to see if they apply the law in the same manner to a receiving parent who argued that she needed to invest in the business else it could not continue to operate.

    If there are any Real Estate business operators out there who would talk to me quite openly about how and where a real estate operator might hide money, I would be very interested to chat. I just need to know where and how to direct the AAT / Court (if i object further) to investigate funds. The funds she says she collects in her business just do not seem to add up with what the sales figures would indicate. Hiding money??

    Appreciate any help from any Real Estate operators / owners who are willing to chat openly (anonymously if you prefer away from this site).
    By: Tkjc2013 from Nsw, Australia on December 29, 2015 @ 4:44 pm
    Jess unless your husband partner is a director or secretary of the company CSA has no right to investigate your company affairs however I suspect they are assuming that it is his company and he is hiding in your name I would have your company solicitor inquire as to why they are accessing your company information and I can not enfasisize this enough do not talk to them on the phone only communicate with them in writing they are a bunch of story tellers and think they are above the law so make sure if they are going to lie to you it all in writing
    By: Becky from Nsw, Australia on December 29, 2015 @ 4:22 pm
    Hi kylie and jess,
    The system is unfair to the paying parent. It is nuce to know that there are other women out there going thru the same thing. I am living of less than $100 a week because of the amount i have to pay my ex. And that is when i have a child with me. The system needs to change. I am being punished for doing the right thing and declaring everything. Now i wont be able to progress in anything for up to 10 yrs.( youngest is 8) i have had to start again whikebhe has a house full of furniture. I dont even have internet at home. I dont have foxtel. I dont have a home phone. All my wage goes to rent and csa. With a little left for food and his credit card that we put in my name 2 months before he wanted to split. Where is the justice?
    By: Jess from QLD, Australia on December 29, 2015 @ 3:15 pm
    Quick question... can CSA look and keep copies of my personal tax return when I have nothing to do with my partners CSA situation. Also I own my business and yes my husband is one of many drivers and pay above "award wage" because my husband has a keycard of business account but only use if eg truck parts ect can CSA obtain my companies bank statements because his name is on a card not the account.
    By: Kylie from NSW, Australia on December 24, 2015 @ 9:24 pm
    Hi i pay $260.00 per fortnight. I made the fatal mistake of underestimating now got slogged with a $356 fine and $4600. Which i am expected to pay by 7/1/16. I have no assets and CSA merciless. They dont care. He won't agree to a private agreement. And now my son is 18 in feb, the ex can apply for an extra year because my son is still in school.so by the time end of 2016 the bill will be $10,000.00...
    My ex bought a new car went o/s. But when my son came to me last year his shoes were thread bare.
    I wish that my ex had to prove that he needs an extra year of payments.
    For me my ex get all the rights and i have all the responsibility.
    By: Ky from Nsw, Australia on December 24, 2015 @ 12:39 pm
    Hi Neil,
    I'm a mum and my ex took my kids, allienated them from me and basically the court wasn't interested because they are 12yrs and older. The court did give 50/50 of my 8 yr old but we are still 12 months from a final order in relation to this. Clearly I'm a good stable working parent because my 8 yr old has flourished since being allowed to live with me again for reasonable times. But ... The ex just 6 weeks later rang CSA and told them he has no income. After 20 years in full time employment earning around $90000, the CSA simply just accepted his word and I now pay support for 2 kids I can never see, and for my 8 yr old even though my costs to support the youngest are assessed as higher than the ex, my payment is the equivalent to an average persons after tax wage, by the time I pay my rent (because my 8 yr old needs to have stood over his head too) I am left with almost nothing to pay my bills many of which were left from the ex as he took everything we had and ran up accounts in my name (CSA don't give a stuff that I'm having to begin from absolutely nothing again while he sits on easy street), anyway... He has formed a company, goes to work everyday, employes my son 1 day a week but claims zero income. I've put in an objection on the basis of his capacity to earn an income, from what I read though it seems the receiving parent gets the advantage regardless of the lies they tell. I intend to take this as far as I need to as well. Of all the warped things CSA are allowed to do, this is just wrong. If a person is the director of a company than the company should be classified as an asset that supports them financially. I know many parents are also in the other side of this type of situation too, being their ex companies up to avoid paying CS at all. If they can work and can earn then this should be considered thd same as a taxable income. The system isn't helping families it's making it worse for kids because the system itself is a platform used for bullying, abuse and destruction. Legislation needs to individualise CS case by case, it should be enforcing ongoing mediation sessions, complete disclosure of assets including companies, income and individual costs of living ( ie rural v city living and the ratio of income to living in different areas.) a one size fits all approach is the real problem with this system.
    By: me from NT, land of what on December 24, 2015 @ 9:44 am
    Neil...what can i say mate. The most powerful 'Thing 'on the planet is female...if they want to use the power that is in legislation. They say the money is for your child so the fact that she has broken laws is irrelevant as the money is for the 'CHildren's feel sick reading what you are having to put up with..MP are all fat cats they do not care...mate i don't no what can be done for you or others. They will neve change the laws too much money being made by your case ad my case..the young boys at schools need to what will have to 4 out of 5 if they get married and foolishly have children but the GOVERMENT will not do that because the 'GOV'need for population growth go to the media--see what the say
    By: Neil from NSW, Australia on December 24, 2015 @ 10:15 am
    My ex has taken our son overseas without my permission and is not intending to return. It's been a year now. There was a family court proceeding pending in few days when she fled the country. As the country is a not a Hague signatory, the authorities can't do anything to bring my son back. But because that country is a reciprocatory country, I'll have to keep paying her child support payment. She has also applied for spousal and child maintenance in the local court in that country. She is a registered nurse and was working as a permanent staff in a public hospital before fleeing. Now she's shown her taxable income as $0 for the current financial year and CSA had approved it as well. My CSA payment has increased exponentially because of that. I applied for the objection that had been rejected. I've recently appealed to the rejection. They pressurising me no to appeal, but I stood my ground. I told them, my next move would be to appeal to the tribunal and then I'll go to the court.
    I've also sent an e mail to my local MP explaining my situation and requested for an appointment. I am not going to sit and keep paying because of this ridiculous law.
    I am thankful to all of you who motivate people like me to keep trying. I promise I'll keep going until either I win or I die trying :-)
    By: Dab from SA, Australia on December 22, 2015 @ 11:06 am
    My question is this,They rape my wages tax return, that is the law.my question Why can't they make it law if you pay CSA that you can have access to you child any time?and if the exs don't let you they get cut off just like (UNEMPLOYMENT benift does).and Why can't we as father's name and shame,
    930. By: Dab from S A, Australia on December 22, 2015 @ 10:28 am
    All father's unite stand up and be counted for your self worth not your $$$$$ value.
    By: Tkjc from Nsw, Australia on December 22, 2015 @ 8:49 am
    Hey all just a quick pop in and a suggestion. We all like to get online and vent and that's great but the reality is unless we band together things will never change. So here is what I suggest we do

    1: stop venting online and go and see your federal member and tell him or her about the injustices you face from CSA

    2: Don't talk to CSA on the phone get them to put there demands in writing and make sure to print all correspondence. This has a two pronged effect A they are less likely to lie and bully you in writing. B they are now going to be made to work for Their money . You see if everybody put them on write only contact then that puts the pressure back on them.

    3: This one is important challenge them on everything ask them the same question three times in different ways and when you get different answers ask them why.

    4: Don't just complain do something there was a parliamentary inquiry into CSA earlier this year the submissions have been recieved and are now closed however nothing has been disscused by parliament as yet we are all voters go and see your local member tell him how broken the system is. The CSA thrives on isolating us as dead beat dads let's show Australia that we are actually the victims show Australia that fathers and their children are the victims of a system that is run by undertrained and uninformed people that don't care about an individual's circumstances but misuse a poorly written and outdated Act to pigeon hole all fathers
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